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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    You sir are a liar.



    Last time I checked, A swift punch to the face was a melee attack.
    Last I checked, a lie is intentional. Last I checked, the description of archers was that they threw rocks when out of arrows and the like. Last I checked the animation looks like them throwing something. I had not see that particular post.

    So would you still like to call me a liar?

    Also, while the animation looks different than a DoH/DoL throwing rocks, it still looks more like a rock toss than a punch. Either way, when used to describe a type of class, melee does not describe an archer since they typically try to avoid close proximity when possible. Just because they CAN melee, doesn't make them a melee class. Regardless of whether you accept that wikipedia entry or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    So would you still like to call me a liar?
    Absolutely. You made this claim that the discription or devs said that archers auto attack was throwing rocks. You did so intentionally. You did so again after being corrected. You did so, posting no proof to support your claim of this discription.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mamba View Post
    Thank you... Was going to reply this myself, but you got there first. I think anyone critizising a nuking mage doing too much damage should play that job themselves, see how long they can nuke the big nukes until the run out of MP or die...
    I am okay with them giving THM the level of damage per cast they are. I feel the general concensus is correct here. The trade off for that great and powerfull burst damage is that its unsustainable due to MP consumption, and thats reasonable. Sure it could possibly use some slight tweaking.

    I admit though it is disappointing to see so few of the mage abilities cross class. The 2 mage abilities are indeed different now, but should be more capable of meshing together well and sharing abilities, especially with the nukes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Absolutely. You made this claim that the discription or devs said that archers auto attack was throwing rocks. You did so intentionally. You did so again after being corrected. You did so, posting no proof to support your claim of this discription.
    Very well, I shall call you a child then. At least mentally, based on the attitude you choose to display.

    Here's your information. This was part of the original description for Archers when the game was released.

    "Constant assessment of the battlefield enables them to carefully determine the most advantageous ground from which to loose, as well as the nature of the arrows best suited to their enemy. Together with the longbow sentries of the Elezen military, the shortbow hunters among the Miqo'te are widely regarded as the most skilled with a bow. the guild's teachings cover a variety of projectile weapons, down to the simplest throwing rock."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Here's your information. This was part of the original description for Archers when the game was released.

    "Constant assessment of the battlefield enables them to carefully determine the most advantageous ground from which to loose, as well as the nature of the arrows best suited to their enemy. Together with the longbow sentries of the Elezen military, the shortbow hunters among the Miqo'te are widely regarded as the most skilled with a bow. the guild's teachings cover a variety of projectile weapons, down to the simplest throwing rock."
    I fail to see how this has anything to do with the auto attack that is a punch based melee attack that was the point of discussion about what makes archer a melee. I was very specific to refere to auto attack, which was also the point of the dev post, I quoted. Whats the fact that we can throw rocks and misc. other projectiles have to do with the fact that we have a close range only auto attack?
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