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    Player
    Eloah's Avatar
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    Jan 2015
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Toki Tsuchimi
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100

    So We Got Bahamut...yay?

    So we finally got the ability to summon Bahamut, SE must be so proud and be patting themselves on their backs right?

    Well, the skill itself doesn't sucks, but it's kinda underwhelming. Instead of giving us some of the things we asked for, like new trance ideas, more pet abilities, or the big one in making each pet viable in any situation, they just gave us a band-aid, its a pretty band-aid, but it still feels like a band-aid.

    I'm curious what other people think? I wont go as far as to say the skill is bad or that it's completely worthless, (*cough*Scholar changes*cough*) but I just felt underwhelmed.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Milpitas , CA
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    Character
    Shinigami Zetta
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I think they did a great job and to be honest other sums are being picky. Be happy and have fun. New experience enjoy it and perhaps just keep adding suggestions.
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    Liii's Avatar
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    Character
    Zypharia Liii
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    My major gripe with bahamut and all the pets in general is their very slow response time. Animation delay and general lag between button press and action made makes the class feel underwhelming since you're always waiting for the animation to go off. 4.0 skills highlight these poor response times which detract from the class experience. Another problem is the new gauge not being as dependable as the old buff timers and combining that with bahamut 'peace-out' animation you may use deathflare/ahkmorn at 1 second on the timer and find that the animation gets cut and you miss it or the animation goes off and no damage is done. these things need to be fixed
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    EllieShadeflare's Avatar
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    Character
    Elatus Shadeflare
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    All I can "technically" complain about is how the difference between Miasma III and Bio III vs Miasma and Bio II doesn't exactly make up for the lack of Bio in terms of potency (only matching 170), but that's what Ruination does, and more (since you not only make up the remaining potency difference for Bio, but considering that each cast is 2.3-2.5, that's an additional 120 potency within a mere 15s. Ruination could possibly be buffed, but not too high.

    Though, at best, I would have been happy if Miasma II was reworked as the Enhanced Corruption 1 Miasma, so a full 30s Miasma to make it feel like an upgrade. I mean, the useless Thunder II became one of the most awesome AoE tools for Black Mage but... meh.
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    Vallhallix's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Urdnot Rekt
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Honestly.......just delete Summoner.

    We will never be happy.

    We will never be loved.

    We will never appear in any cinematic.

    SE will never balance us.

    We will always be the ever evolving class that never finds it's identity.

    People will always complain about us.

    Just end it.

    /burnsgrimoireandreleasesegiessences
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  6. #6
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    Mikhaill's Avatar
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    Character
    Xetsu Mitsuhara
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    I want them to treat all Egis this way. it's a good step but fix the rest.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Bevelle, Besaid Island
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    Character
    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liii View Post
    My major gripe with bahamut and all the pets in general is their very slow response time. Animation delay and general lag between button press and action made makes the class feel underwhelming since you're always waiting for the animation to go off. 4.0 skills highlight these poor response times which detract from the class experience. Another problem is the new gauge not being as dependable as the old buff timers and combining that with bahamut 'peace-out' animation you may use deathflare/ahkmorn at 1 second on the timer and find that the animation gets cut and you miss it or the animation goes off and no damage is done. these things need to be fixed
    jeep this is awful indeed... always fearing that this will happen every time I summon him in a chaotic moment where you have to adjust your rota cause of movement or similar issues... the last 2-3 secs of bahamuts trance is a real pain – the poor response to their skills effects me on sch even more... seeing physic spam won't be enough going for eos heal buff push... no response... no cds up... "waaaahhhh" huge fuck up : /
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-04-2017 at 10:13 PM.

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    Remus's Avatar
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    Garlemald
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    Character
    Robas Kebas
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    You summoners were asking for big summons and they gave you it. Deal with it.
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    Character
    Crimson Bloodrose
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    If something, Bahamut is the step on the right direction. The egi should have been exactly what bahamut is atm. It doesn't take damage, attacks when and what you attack, is responsive when you ask it to akh morn...etc
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Character
    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    You summoners were asking for big summons and they gave you it. Deal with it.
    funny statement – actually most of the summoners I know love Bahamut in mechanic and size – most complains come from other grp cls saying they "can't do mechanics" cause Bahamut is in "their way" - don't blame us for their complains x'D

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    If something, Bahamut is the step on the right direction. The egi should have been exactly what bahamut is atm. It doesn't take damage, attacks when and what you attack, is responsive when you ask it to akh morn...etc
    yeah hopefully other will follow in this kind of mechanic – would love to see Alexander with Divine Judgment or Odin with Zantetsuken – that would be great :3
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-04-2017 at 10:14 PM.

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