Large pulls VS Small pulls... in leveling dungeons?

[HyperSMB]

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Bene/Tetra/Assize/Asylum in between, use Holy to stop damage for 4 seconds then SC for another holy halfway through that stun for another stun which you can cast Cure 2 during.

If you use all these right and the tank still dies, he sucks.

What I mean to say is spamming Cure 2 or Bene 2 is not enough on a real pressure pull.

On the other hand, a tank should know the right limits and test the healer/DPS early and adjust expectations as needed (Since DPS killing things faster is a form of mitigation).

[Neophyte]

There are several occassions where you can pull 2 groups together. With rolebased skills I have, idk, 6 cooldowns+hallowed and clemency too, so esp. if I got two casters I gonna pull 2 groups at certain points.

Not crazy shit, like approaching the big stone adds in bardams mettle with the group before them. But Doma Castle the first two groups (starting with HG) or the two groups in the staircase (HG again and usually with full lb)? Sure.

[VanilleFang]

Bene/Tetra/Assize/Asylum in between, use Holy to stop damage for 4 seconds then SC for another holy halfway through that stun for another stun which you can cast Cure 2 during.

If you use all these right and the tank still dies, he sucks.

What I mean to say is spamming Cure 2 or Bene 2 is not enough on a real pressure pull.

On the other hand, a tank should know the right limits and test the healer/DPS early and adjust expectations as needed (Since DPS killing things faster is a form of mitigation).

You don't have all those CDs in every dungeon. I remember back when Qarn HM was relatively new and I got a run with a tank that was impossible to keep up when all I could do was spam Cure 2 w/ Divine Seal/PoM. All I had other than that was Bene, on a 300 sec CD.

I of course got blamed for him dying consistently, even though I explained that I was spamming Cure 2 and he was still dying.

[Naberrie]

You don't have all those CDs in every dungeon.

Exactly. Not every dungeon is level 70 where have your entire toolkit. Some of them you're cut off from your favorite bag of tricks and just trying to throw out what you have to work with as fast as you can.