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    Sylvina's Avatar
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annah View Post
    White mage here:

    If a white mage is geared very nicely, large pulls aren't an issue at all

    However (like you said), if you just got a lvl 67 WHM (who just lvled to 67)...without that Doma gear ..I wont lie....massive pulls can be "interesting"

    Especially when I see a tank wearing all STR on the right side...that ...that....that's for another topic (not saying you do this).

    But if you wanna die fast...wear all DPS gear as a tank...

    I hate reddit for thinking that was a good idea lol
    Tanks are wearing STR gear to HELP them do their job which is hold aggro, becuase someone thought it would be a good idea to remove their VIT damage scaling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    Tanks are wearing STR gear to HELP them do their job which is hold aggro, becuase someone thought it would be a good idea to remove their VIT damage scaling.
    Holding aggro is just half their job. The other half is surviving, which is where VIT helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Holding aggro is just half their job. The other half is surviving, which is where VIT helps.
    Only the more VIT you have now, the less damage you do, and the harder it becomes to hold aggro vs well geared dps. someone at SE wasn't thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    Only the more VIT you have now, the less damage you do, and the harder it becomes to hold aggro vs well geared dps. someone at SE wasn't thinking.
    Yeah it was a really stupid change for a tangential reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yahallo View Post
    I think 2 packs is pretty standard in Ex at the moment. Possible to handle more, but you need to make sure everyone is up for it.

    As for your Drk, I mean some tanks are just more comfortable with higher HP. The higher HP can have a bit of a psychological effect that makes them feel more at ease and focused. Some people come from other MMO's where tanks don't necessary have a DPS meta so it may be what they are used to. It is technically the intended play style so there is nothing wrong with it. It is likely more of a comfort thing if I had to guess; of course, even an educated guess is still only a guess. Different play styles for different people.
    Well, he comes from WoW so I don't think he's unaware of the DPS meta. I used to sit in tank stance and he told me that was bad. "gotta drop grit for that full 450 potency C&S" That was in Heavensward though. Yeah, I think he's probably more comfortable with it. He was saying how stuff hurts more now.
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    Last edited by YitharV2; 07-04-2017 at 06:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    Tanks are wearing STR gear to HELP them do their job which is hold aggro, becuase someone thought it would be a good idea to remove their VIT damage scaling.
    Holding agro is moot if the tank dies.
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    Oooh, shiney...

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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    Holding agro is moot if the tank dies.
    And they won't, provided they use cooldowns. People really have been overstating how hard these dungeons are. They aren't.
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    K'hali Thalen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    Holding agro is moot if the tank dies.
    And holding aggro isn't really something we have much trouble with, even before the buffs to emnity generation that came in 4.01. Yes our threat gen isn't what it used to be, but it's entirely adequate for current content. Let's face it: People use STR gear for bigger numbers, NOT because they are struggling with threat
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    And holding aggro isn't really something we have much trouble with, even before the buffs to emnity generation that came in 4.01. Yes our threat gen isn't what it used to be, but it's entirely adequate for current content.
    Unless you're partied with two red mages and don't use Overpower/Flash/Unleash respectively when pulling. I admit I haven't tanked since SB hit, but my go-to way of tanking is use the aforementioned skills 2-3 times depending on mob size.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    Let's face it: People use STR gear for bigger numbers, NOT because they are struggling with threat
    And usually ignore above mentioned skills.
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