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    RyuujinZERO's Avatar
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    K'hali Thalen
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    Holding agro is moot if the tank dies.
    And holding aggro isn't really something we have much trouble with, even before the buffs to emnity generation that came in 4.01. Yes our threat gen isn't what it used to be, but it's entirely adequate for current content. Let's face it: People use STR gear for bigger numbers, NOT because they are struggling with threat
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    And holding aggro isn't really something we have much trouble with, even before the buffs to emnity generation that came in 4.01. Yes our threat gen isn't what it used to be, but it's entirely adequate for current content.
    Unless you're partied with two red mages and don't use Overpower/Flash/Unleash respectively when pulling. I admit I haven't tanked since SB hit, but my go-to way of tanking is use the aforementioned skills 2-3 times depending on mob size.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    Let's face it: People use STR gear for bigger numbers, NOT because they are struggling with threat
    And usually ignore above mentioned skills.
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    Vamelo's Avatar
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    Gemini Rising
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    Mateus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    There's some macho thing about "large pulls". It works fine as long as the healer doesn't run out of MP ... and some DPS with their TP ... I love it when the tank runs out of MP or TP and obviously is winging it as far as holding aggro.

    The other thing I love is the "Sorry...." as we run back in from the start point. Yeah. Big pulls. As useful as a bubblegum machine in a lockjaw ward. The time is predicated on how fast the DPS can get the targets down, not how many mobs the tank can pull.

    You can pull the entire instance if you want...and so what if you do?
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    Sorciechan's Avatar
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    Saliene Ridde
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    To answer the OP, not in the Heavensward leveling dungeons, but I do remember the trend a little after Brayflox HM came out. Honestly, I hated it. You'd only run into a few good tanks that could pull off gathering mobs and staying alive well enough for them to die. Others, they'll pull, not migitate, die in a few secs, then blame the dps for not downing quick enough (that was the time when it was all "whoever-seems-to-have-the-lower-dps's fault). I never understood it, and, if you ask me, I don't care how much you can pull, you're bad if you get us killed and drag on the dungeon time in the process.
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    Mateus
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    lulz - three to five minutes. What's your rush? Got a meeting with the prime minister?

    Reminds me of those folks who pass everybody in sight, you run into at the red light.

    Nice try, whatever it was you were after. lulz - three to five minutes.
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Yea leveling dungeons starting with bardem I always tell the tank be careful and take in account im not a WHM so my MP management isn't going to be easy...

    Me personally I only like big pulls in expert dungeons because I'm geared for that but leveling dungeons is really not the place for those huge pulls unless you have a WHM because they can spam holy and still turn around and heal the crap out of the tank...
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I don't do large pulls in leveling dungeons. If the party doesn't like it, they can kick me.

    Spoiler: I've never been kicked for pulling small in leveling dungeons, HW or SB. I generally get one to three comms.
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    I don't do large pulls in leveling dungeons. If the party doesn't like it, they can kick me.

    Spoiler: I've never been kicked for pulling small in leveling dungeons, HW or SB. I generally get one to three comms.
    I have. And I was told I was a garbage tank prior to the kick.
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    I don't do large pulls in leveling dungeons. If the party doesn't like it, they can kick me.

    Spoiler: I've never been kicked for pulling small in leveling dungeons, HW or SB. I generally get one to three comms.
    Probably because a lot of players who aren't exceedingly vocal would actually prefer to see the dungeon instead of run through it like a loon.
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    Zefiris's Avatar
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    Limwris Abriel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Hours ago, roulette leveling gave me Doma Castle while playing with my Ast. Well, I already imagined that could happen, then I expected reaching lv68 to put gear of this level before try roulette. Tank Lv67 did a big pull and I had luck in keep alive. If I was using gear Lv66, would be wipe.

    Well, I dislike big pulls, but try keep all alive without complain.
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