As I was progressing through the MSQ a week and a half ago, when I entered Doma Castle, the WHM asked me (as PLD) to “please do not pull large groups”. As soon as I answered that I would never do large pulls on a leveling dungeon I’m entering for the first time because obviously, I know that we aren’t overgearing it, I was answered that “I’d be surprised how often this happens”. We went on to clear the dungeon in about 25 minutes uneventfully and each of us went on their merry ways.
Now, seeing as I got to i309 in a couple of days just doing roulettes for Verity, I already am back to doing large pulls in Expert or 50/60 roulettes, for obvious reasons. If for whatever reason, a pull goes wrong, I simply redo it by cutting it in half, but this happens only once in a while. So this discussion isn’t about that.
However, as I started leveling what will become my alt class for 24-man (RDM), I started seeing the trend of tanks trying to make pulls akin to the ones “I” do on expert and 50/60 roulettes. This got especially bad at Bardam’s Mettle, when 2/3 of the time, unless I start spamming Vercure on the tank to help the healer, we would lose the tank in seconds, most often resulting a wipe, which I managed to prevent a few times because I had hate on the pack, so I’d kite a few seconds and when I was about to die, I’d use Lucid Dreaming to shift hate on someone, and by that time, either the healer or I had enough time to raise the tank and recover.
But as one tank tried to reason saying “but we survived the pulls so far”, he was answered by the healer “that’s only because the RDM is helping me keeping your alive” to which I added that therein lies the problem, when I’m not DPSing, we take twice as much time killing the large pack, therefore making the whole point moot in the first place plus putting undue stress on the healer. I suppose some will tell me “those were bad healers” but from what I was seeing, they are trying, the tanks simply are getting hit harder starting from Bardam’s Mettle. While it’s fun to “play the hero as backup healing RDM”, there’s a reason why my icon is Red, not Green. Hahaha.
Granted, I know that it can work in the right setup… Like until Shisui of the Violet Tides, when most players come from Heavensward in i270 blue gear when that dungeons drops i270 green gear, but after that, we no longer outgear the dungeons.
So I guess what I’d like to start the discussion on, is that I don’t remember this trend back in Heavensward in leveling dungeons. Does someone else remember that it happened in Heavensward? What are peoples’ consensus on this?