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    TankHunter678's Avatar
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    Selena Zensh
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    And on the topic of Balance, AST is the only job with the utility to give a party wide 10% damage boost
    *looks at ninja trick attack with 60 sec cooldown* I wish to correct you on something...

    If you are lucky within 1 minute you can have an AoE balance, if you are unlucky the next AoE balance can be up to 5 or even 10 minutes away, this I have personally experienced as AST is the healer I main.

    Meaning that in terms of total 10% raid wide damage boosting Ninja is in fact superior and has higher uptime on that damage boost, because it is 100% consistent in how it functions.

    If you were to nerf balance then people would simply run a Ninja for raid wide damage boosting, especially since ninja also brings a good chunk of DPS to the table. If SCH was superior off-healer then AST would be dumped, as Ninja handles the damage boost during the burst moments and SCH would handle the shields with WHM handling the power healing and main healing.
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    Crystal Skye
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    Halicarnassus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post

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    Except SCH shields are crap and unreliable. AST brings reliability in Noct power. A SCH shield is only ever really worth anything 10-15% of the time. AST shield is ALWAYS good.

    The whole AST thing of light (Sun) and dark (Moon) is honestly just dumb. Instead of shields and regen, which already belong to other classes, why not get real creative and try an actual support class or something.

    Right now, Balance...not even whether it is good or not but the community obession with DPS pushing this to be the only desired outcome, warps the entire class identity.
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    *looks at ninja trick attack with 60 sec cooldown* I wish to correct you on something... (snip)
    I was talking about healer roles in particular, didn't mean to step over the role lines if that was implied :P

    As for if SCH was the superior off heals: AST would still have balance. If they reverted it to the 10% single target it used to be there would still be a fairly significant damage boost when used as an AoE. I would like to at least think it would be significant enough for an AST to still be taken in over SCH depending on the group. (Or they would take both a NIN and AST since, with luck, the vulnerability up and balance being used at the same time would be a pretty awesome damage buff :P)

    EDIT: And to reiterate from my original post; I do not believe AST needs any nerfs. I think it's where it needs to be. WHM and SCH need a few buffs.
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    Ootarion Astrofengia
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    EDIT: And to reiterate from my original post; I do not believe AST needs any nerfs. I think it's where it needs to be. WHM and SCH need a few buffs.
    Like I was saying in an earlier post of mine, I know for a fact that AST does not need any nerfs, AST and WHM right now are on par with eachother (maybe WHM could do with a lil bit of a buff), but if SCH is falling behind, then it shouldnt be blamed on the other two, so I agree with you File2ish.
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