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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Noct AST is ridiculous right now. And WHM barely has higher HPS, and personal DPS pales in comparison to group DPS. Balance gives more group DPS than WHM could even hope for.

    And have you even tries the Confession system? I've said it before and I'll say it again. Plentary Indulgence is literal trash.
    People always complain about balance. Iand I'm wondering do people play AST because that ish is so RNG you would be lucky to get balance maybe twice in one run...the whole class is RNG so yes there is benefit when RNG is in your favorite...

    Sorry if I seem annoyed but AST has come a long way from being complete trash, and I've been playing it since and it's in a really good place right now and you people complaining about it like always is going to revert it back to 3.0 AST so that we can go back to WHM/SCH PF groups and us AST healers are left out because once again we are trash so go advocate to buff your own damn healer and leave AST alone
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    Attica Jurlon
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    Something I'll never understand is that when balance was a flat 10% buff (aoe 5% for the party), everyone crunched the numbers and said the DPS increase was negligible - that AST wasn't worth taking over WHM/SCH. The buff to balance suddenly made them overpowered...so if they nerf it back to the way it was, the buffs will no longer be worth it.

    I'm fine with them adjusting our healing potencies or giving the other healers some better buffs. But reducing the potencies on our cards will just put us back where we started.
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    rng
    AST has been really good since like 3.2 so... And no the whole is not rng.

    And okay, let's talk about RNG. According to you since Balance is RNG-locked it should be quite powerful, correct? Alright, so why is PI/Confession stacks so lackluster? You only have a 20% chance of getting a Confession stack... as a tank heal (which is what it is 99% of the time going to be used as) it's pathetic. At one stack it heals less than Cure. Even trying to get it on other allies is generally inefficient and next to impossible.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    AST has been really good since like 3.2 so... And no the whole is not rng.

    And okay, let's talk about RNG. According to you since Balance is RNG-locked it should be quite powerful, correct? Alright, so why is PI/Confession stacks so lackluster? You only have a 20% chance of getting a Confession stack... as a tank heal (which is what it is 99% of the time going to be used as) it's pathetic. At one stack it heals less than Cure. Even trying to get it on other allies is generally inefficient and next to impossible.
    Then we buff WHM like OP said. Does that not fix the issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Then we buff WHM like OP said. Does that not fix the issue?
    Buffing HPS and/or personal DPS wouldn't fix much of anything. WHM doesn't need more DPS... And increasing HPS could make WHM required until we hit a certain ilvl where HPS will be ignored for more utility. Neither situation sounds ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Buffing HPS and/or personal DPS wouldn't fix much of anything. WHM doesn't need more DPS... And increasing HPS could make WHM required until we hit a certain ilvl where HPS will be ignored for more utility. Neither situation sounds ideal.
    I think their kit should be reworked a bit to include regens and off globals as well as Plenary being an AoE heal. Maybe buff their DPS a bit.

    SCH, from what I hear is not fun to play, while it remains effective. I don't play SCH in a hardcore setting so I can't comment on it too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rai_Takara View Post
    I think their kit should be reworked a bit to include regens and off globals as well as Plenary being an AoE heal. Maybe buff their DPS a bit.

    SCH, from what I hear is not fun to play, while it remains effective. I don't play SCH in a hardcore setting so I can't comment on it too much.
    Those all sound like solid ideas.
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