Remove accessories from guaranteed dungeon loot! :I

[TankHunter678]

Leveled up Paladin earlier, ran with level 63 dungeon chest all the way to 70 job equipment since RNG didn't give new one, and guaranteed items were mostly accessories.

I feel sorry to whoever was healing me, there was quite big gap in my defenses due low level chest-piece.

From my experience even for tanks without the xp boost provided by having a level 70 already and FC+food buffs it takes a tank, healer, or DPS 10 runs to level out of a dungeon. So as long as you never sold any gear you got from the dungeon and rolled on everything of your class to get it there should of been no possible way that you leveled through the dungeons and not gotten fully geared out by it excluding weapon. The only possible way is if you were running with the aforementioned XP boosts to reduce the number of runs from 10 to 8.

I would not be surprised if you never noticed because they simply do not play the "you won the item!" sound on boss kill. It just quietly gets placed in your inventory (unless it auto deposits into armory chest based on your settings).

No.

If anything, what needs to happen is to make the loot system smarter. For instance, if a piece of gear drops that piece should not be able to drop again during that run. Duplicate drops are pure bs considering everything that could drop.

The next thing I would consider changing is adding weapons to the given item pool, but only after you've collected EVERY piece of that dungeons gear set.

And what if you got duplicate class combos like say... 2x RDM, 2x SAM, 2x BRD? That is why duplicate drops can occur. Not to mention the guaranteed auto-drop was only added on top of the existing system.

[Anzaman]

From my experience even for tanks without the xp boost provided by having a level 70 already and FC+food buffs it takes a tank, healer, or DPS 10 runs to level out of a dungeon. So as long as you never sold any gear you got from the dungeon and rolled on everything of your class to get it there should of been no possible way that you leveled through the dungeons and not gotten fully geared out by it excluding weapon. The only possible way is if you were running with the aforementioned XP boosts to reduce the number of runs from 10 to 8.

I ran daily roulettes along side, Shisui (63) was only dungeon that I ran enough to get every single piece of equipment - then after 67 (Doma) dungeon I had every single piece from there, but chest.

[Ayerinn]

I ran daily roulettes along side, Shisui (63) was only dungeon that I ran enough to get every single piece of equipment - then after 67 (Doma) dungeon I had every single piece from there, but chest.

Yeah Shisui is over glamoured at the moment...so meh. Also, not dyeable so double meh (especially for STR and DEX users - ugly colors!)

[Kyuuen]

And what if you got duplicate class combos like say... 2x RDM, 2x SAM, 2x BRD? That is why duplicate drops can occur. Not to mention the guaranteed auto-drop was only added on top of the existing system.

And while that is a possibility, it's also a rarity. Can also modify this from happening by better refining the duty finder system to lessen the likelihood of having duplicate jobs/classes in a duty.

But what about those that form their own parties and don't use the Duty Finder matching system?

Thems the breaks. Duplicate item drops are garbage. There are PLENTY of other items to be had, let another drop.

However I would restrict this restriction from raids, as you said, there's more of a chance for duplicate classes/jobs. But four man dungeons, there's no excuse. =P

[Natsuno]

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Then someone gets it for their alt/main job? Not every tank/healer that steps in there mains that job/role.

Or it's gil/seals/desynth fodder. One mans trash...

[Kyuuen]

Then someone gets it for their alt/main job? Not every tank/healer that steps in there mains that job/role.

Or it's gil/seals/desynth fodder. One mans trash...

Same can be said for any other piece of gear that drops that doesn't fit the current party consistency. However, the same piece; in four man content, should not drop more than once per run. There's plenty of other gear that could drop.

Fending, Maiming, Striking, Scouting, Aiming, Casting, and Healing that consist of the left side of equipment (6 x 7 = 42) plus the right side accessories (5 x 4 = 20) and then weapons (1 x 15 = 15) so a total of 77 potential items. I really don't understand why people feel duplicates are fine when a dungeons loot pool is that large. >.>

[Ibi]

Leveled up Paladin earlier, ran with level 63 dungeon chest all the way to 70 job equipment since RNG didn't give new one, and guaranteed items were mostly accessories.

I feel sorry to whoever was healing me, there was quite big gap in my defenses due low level chest-piece.

If you had actually been concerned, you could always have purchased a chest from either the market board or the vendors in Kurogane.

[Kyuuen]

No.

If anything, what needs to happen is to make the loot system smarter. For instance, if a piece of gear drops that piece should not be able to drop again during that run. Duplicate drops are pure bs considering everything that could drop.

The next thing I would consider changing is adding weapons to the given item pool, but only after you've collected EVERY piece of that dungeons gear set.

[Ayerinn]

Keep your drops and you will get everything before getting dupes...pretty simple concept.

[Ageofwar]

the loot from the SB leveling dungoens is pretty good it makes the MSQ gear useless since the dungoen stuff is way better in looks and stats