Get rid of jumping puzzle in Kugane

[Xerxus___]

I was up there twice now, the first time i took me 10h second time 15 min, its about practice. It seem hard for people to endure the basics things for an achievement.

[Coatl]

It feels better when you have to work for it OP.

[Naunet]

It feels better when you have to work for it OP.

It's possible to have challenging jump puzzles that don't rely on BS invisible hitbox issues and clumsy movement control for their challenge. See GW2 and WildStar.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

I managed in about 40 minutes, it was just one jump that gave me grief, it was pretty frustrating at times (I missed the last damn jump) but overall I did have some fun with it. I will say the engine is not great for precise platforming.

My biggest problem is the hitboxes which make me think I missed when in actually I made the jump, my damn feet are standing on thin air! Its very disorienting.

Its also easier to do if you have a buddy to chat with on voip who gets to suffer with you.

[ErryK]

It's possible to have challenging jump puzzles that don't rely on BS invisible hitbox issues and clumsy movement control for their challenge. See GW2 and WildStar.

It is. It however doesn't mean it isn't doable as is.

[AlphaFox]

I actually enjoyed the jump puzzles myself, however I did not enjoy the "invisible" ledges you are forced to use in order to successfully climb up. That last jump has you literally standing on the edge and after 10 tries the only way I found to get up there is facing the tower and doing a side hop. I enjoyed the reward and the view, do believe they need to add a mini aether so we can teleport back once we succeed. Funny thing is I did the tower first, so the bath house one was a snap.

[Syrellaris]

I do enjoy jumping puzzles, I think they can made quite challanging as well.. However, Square-Enix can def learn from Guild Wars to improve on them as the Kugane one is not really well done. It's a good height for a puzzle, has good challanging bits, but the invisible hit boxes, bad placement of certain jumps etc, can be improved on.

[Taruna-Aeon]

It's one thing to make a game challenging. It's another to just be a jerk. And whoever thought it was a good idea to put that sightseeing point in Kugane at the other side of a ridiculous jumping puzzle is exactly that. A jerk.

Or maybe you could just appreciate that they added interesting jump puzzles to the game? to me, sure it was frustrating at first but I felt really happy when I managed to make it to the top the first time. Besides, there are some pretty challenging vistas here and there in case you haven't gotten them already. I'd say some of them are worse.

[WhiteArchmage]

I took a hard crack at it and have a fear of heights, and finally made it. I proved to myself my stubbornness is stronger than my fears.

This, exactly. The first time I made it to the last few jumps I was shivering and got reaaaally hit with anxiety (yes, even though I knew it was just a game); but i was too stubborn and a few days later finally got to the top

[Erudito]

I raged so hard for that jumping puzzle. I did it, but I won't be doing something like that again. I would have liked it more but the entire tower has little invisible edges and corners all over that make the jumps strange and even more annoying.

But you know what is worse then the Kugane Tower sightseeing log? 99% of the ARR sightseeing logs. Time restrictions, crazy jumps, weather requirements; all of this and in combinations too. The Kugane Tower can be done with perseverance and practice but those ARR sightseeing logs are pure evil.