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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    All SB dungeons/trials add one or two mechanics, we even have a dungeon showing most, if not all, AOE telegraphs.
    And still a substantial amount of people are terrible at spotting them and managing them. Forcing them to learn it in a well-tuned proving grounds would be a much better option. Imaging the stacking telegraph and have the player forced to move to a group of allied AI in the distance to soak it. Nobody else will cover for his own ignorance of the telegraph, he has to learn to manage it himself.

    This is why I see proving grounds as an additional queuing requirement as a boon to prevent getting frustrated over ignorant players.
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComradeVodka View Post
    And still a substantial amount of people are terrible at spotting them and managing them. Forcing them to learn it in a well-tuned proving grounds would be a much better option. Imaging the stacking telegraph and have the player forced to move to a group of allied AI in the distance to soak it. Nobody else will cover for his own ignorance of the telegraph, he has to learn to manage it himself.

    This is why I see proving grounds as an additional queuing requirement as a boon to prevent getting frustrated over ignorant players.
    Do you understand that Blizzard dropped the concept because still some player failed to archieve silver? (yeah, there is a popular case of a guy blaming everything but him for that) Also, the quality of people inside LFR and heroics never improved. If you mind so much bad player don't do anything with randoms.
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    No again about world of warcraft ..... I don't want FFXIV come same WoW.
    (I'm played WoW from many year. Last months ago I leaved. I see many stupid thing WoW. Why FFXIV are better)

    Please no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlBlackX View Post
    No again about world of warcraft ..... I don't want FFXIV come same WoW.
    (I'm played WoW from many year. Last months ago I leaved. I see many stupid thing WoW. Why FFXIV are better)

    Please no.
    How is adopting one concept making the game "the same as wow".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComradeVodka View Post
    How is adopting one concept making the game "the same as wow".
    This happens anytime anyone brings up another feature in a differen't mmo, naturally it's mostly a feature from WoW. People overreact and instead of reading what the feature is, they resort to kneejerk reactions about not wanting FFXIV to become wow. Which is hysterical considering that every mmo, including FFXIV borrows concepts and ideas from WoW. While I enjoy FFXIV more, there are certain features that i wouldn't mind seeing translated over to FFXIV.
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    Why add Proving Ground when the mini boss in the level 65 dungeon is pretty much what you are describing. It essentially teaches all these jump potion people various mechanics work in the game.
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearcat01 View Post
    Why add Proving Ground when the mini boss in the level 65 dungeon is pretty much what you are describing. It essentially teaches all these jump potion people various mechanics work in the game.
    Beat me to it, well said sir.
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

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    Mana Kurogane
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearcat01 View Post
    Why add Proving Ground when the mini boss in the level 65 dungeon is pretty much what you are describing. It essentially teaches all these jump potion people various mechanics work in the game.
    Only issue is that you can be carried past it. I am pretty sure only one person needs to know what they are doing to get past that boss.
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    Can we like.. just stop trying to make this game into a mini World of Warcraft? I quit that game because its trash, don't bring that trash here.
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    I wish they'd just unlock undersized (note for the paranoid: not unsynced) for current content so my group could go in and fail the first few mechanics a few times in advance before recruiting enough members to try fights properly. Not specifically talking about that encounter at all - I haven't even tried it as I'm deliberately taking the story slowly - but watching the intro, getting used to the lay of the land and seeing the first phase at least really helps my RL friends. Obviously this wouldn't help overconfident people at all, but helping people who want to experiment would raise the bar just a little bit for everyone else, right?
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