I'm enjoying the new WHM >,>

[NefarioCall]

Yes, i was not pleased when i found out the Lily's were attached to bum spells... aaand i still think the system would work better if other spells like Regen at least offered a chance at Lily's, but the whole thing is smoother than i expected, and in concept, i actually enjoy the job more than i did in HW.

The reduction on cool downs just feels outright powerful. When i'm mindful to keep my Lily stack at 3, the frequency at which Assize pops for example seems to come very quick... and regen, frankly, i can pump out powerful spells and not run low on MP near as fast as i did before. ... popping thin air and shortening cast time and regen and spamming Medica xD it's like i can be at 0 MP, wham bam super AOE heal blast fun time and suddenly have 10k mp again.

Now, again, i do think it would be better if Lily's came from more variety of spells. Too often i'm focusing a little too much on throwing out a cure spell to get a Lily when i would have maybe wanted to use those few seconds for something else ... but there's also often enough cause for the use of a Cure spell to produce Lily's naturally. It depends.

Mainly, there's no real issue with how long they stay up. ... Except that they do vanish as soon as i use a cool down. And what i mean by that is i do wonder if the juggling act is a bit too complicated for its own good knowing i have to get Lily's back up every time i pop anything. Again, if Regen for example even offered like a 25% of a Lily, i think the system would work better.

But in all, i'm pleased with it. The WHM cool downs are strong, and shortening the recast timers sometimes feels like it can border on super healer power breakage when the Lily's are maximised perfectly ... even if the DPS is a bit lower.

[tymora]

Miss my stoneskin

[ErryK]

I enjoyed 4.0 WHM over 3.0 WHM, if I'm honest. People say the majority of the skills are useless and meaningless but they're very fluid and flow well together, my only issue is Confession stacks should pop up more frequently than 20%, something like 40% would be fine.

Miss my stoneskin

30s recast is nothing considering it's free.

[Risvertasashi]

30s recast is nothing considering it's free.

Not free. Costs RNG tokens.

WHM does feel very fluid... but it's mostly the same as 3.0. Just with some key things like Thin Air for mass holy spam, reduced Assize CD, etc. I do mislike Largesse's 90s CD, making it less available for mechanics that line up on a minutely cycle.

[ErryK]

Not free. Costs RNG tokens.

Since when was 100% Lily proc rate on Cure II RNG? You'll be Cure II'ing anyways, so that shield is essentially the cost of a Cure II but since you were needing that heal, and Stoneskin would've cost something like 3k MP at Lv70, you've essentially saved 3k MP... which was my point.

[akaneakki]

I think it's already but the rng lily needs to be on regen ticks(slight chance) or when it's casted. I would also say on cure 1 as well. It floats well and I think it will be used pretty good in raids too.

[Faliandra]

Not free. Costs RNG tokens.

quick tank patch up:

Cure II > Regen > Divine Benison.

Say all you want but i hardly ever used stoneskin at all....but I use divine benison quite often.

Always trying to finish a pull with 3 lilies so I can pop Assize with those on the next pull, then if I need anything else like tetra/asylum, ill use those with 0 or max 1 lily....and divine benison also only ever gets used with 1 lily on.
Having that system in place how to prioritize your lily usage in itself is quite fun.

But I agree Plenatory Indulgence needs a buff really bad, I'd say at least 50-60% proc chance...thats really not that OP when you think of what Earthly Star does that ASTs get

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

My only real complaints with the 4.0 WHM are:

1) Plenary Indulgence is useless which is terribly disappointing for a new max level skill. Confession needs to go away and PI need to cost and consume lilies imo, with potency of the heal determined by the number of lilies consumed. As it works right now, PI is generally a waste of bar space and RNG at PI's level has no place in healing as far as I'm concerned.

2) No group utility buff. If Presence of Mind or Thin Air affected the whole party I'd be satisfied.

[Johaandr]

1) just buff PI.

2) lol no.

[Feidam]

My only real complaints with the 4.0 WHM are:

1) Plenary Indulgence is useless which is terribly disappointing for a new max level skill. Confession needs to go away and PI need to cost and consume lilies imo, with potency of the heal determined by the number of lilies consumed. As it works right now, PI is generally a waste of bar space and RNG at PI's level has no place in healing as far as I'm concerned.

2) No group utility buff. If Presence of Mind or Thin Air affected the whole party I'd be satisfied.

Confessions are fine if the heal would just be aoe off that one person. That fix alone would be nice. However on your number two ideas umm no. Talk about op with current cooldown rate or they would nerf said cooldowns.