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    Or they could implement the housing option that ESO has: Buy a house from the item cash shop and it yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syunikiss View Post
    Or they could implement the housing option that ESO has: Buy a house from the item cash shop and it yours.
    I would like that. A one purchase for a permanent item. I wont need to worry whether or i keep my subscription active. I could take breaks and wont need to worry to go back to the game to prevent SE demolishes my house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syunikiss View Post
    Or they could implement the housing option that ESO has: Buy a house from the item cash shop and it yours.
    Since I don't sell much stuff in the game or do DoL/DoH stuff, I would totally be down to buy a guaranteed house this way.
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    you know how you can go to the sky pirate base for the void ark quest line? that made me think why not allow us to get houses on islands which can effectively work as instanced housing for those who don't care for living in wards shared with other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    you know how you can go to the sky pirate base for the void ark quest line? that made me think why not allow us to get houses on islands which can effectively work as instanced housing for those who don't care for living in wards shared with other players.
    Sea of Clouds individually instanced housing might actually be a good way to handle it. It would probably also be reminiscent of Wildstar's housing, which seemed to me to be some random floating island.
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    Let's put two and two together...

    For reference I hate Mabinogi's instanced homesteads because it's a complete joke to get people to play farmville-like activities.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalta View Post
    actully mabinogi has 2 housing systems.

    the 1st one is just a glorified MB system

    and the other is an actual personal property system called Homesteads. and every one gets one for free pir character and you can do what you want with it.
    Yes, and I was talking about the glorified MB system because Mabinogi's system is essentially the same as FFXIV V1.0's retainer/market system except it was pseudo-searchable. That said, it was also a colossal joke other than the castle dungeon which was something that was guild-only or could be open to the public. I speak of this as being a member of the guild who had the first castle on the server and kept it for years before the guild leaders just up and vanished. That's what happens when you play from outside North America. The only correct thing that Mabinogi did market-wise was kept players from opening shops without paying a subscription, but unfortunately the "free" accounts were able to keep operating shops perpetually if they never level. Thus they parked their butts the minute the server came up and anti-AFK'ed until the next maintenance window. Everything else was a mess.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Sea of Clouds individually instanced housing might actually be a good way to handle it. It would probably also be reminiscent of Wildstar's housing, which seemed to me to be some random floating island.
    See this is where the "homesteading" idea can be worked into FFXIV correctly. Just go a little bit further.

    1) First you need to find a suitable floating rock/landmass. Once you get the airship in the game (the mana cutter) you can go look for one. The backend of this would have the feel of "battleship" where you are shown a "sector" of the sky and launch probes to see what's there. Get a hit, you can either look around with your air ship or you can launch another probe to see how big the landmass is. Landmasses could vary from 25 yalms (About the same distance as casting most magic) to 250 yalms.
    2) Crafting is essential. In order to build a floating homestead you would need to craft some props/engines first, once you have that, you can craft a "small room" and use the remaining space for the same kind of outdoors stuff the housing areas offer.
    3) When you get bored of your tiny home, you can go find a larger rock to attach to your floating island and build a bigger building on it. Go back to step 1.


    That said, I'm wary of this happening. What happened in Mabinogi is that the farming dropped the bottom out of the market for pretty much everything that could be farmed. So they would need to be balanced in a way that anything farmed can't be sold on the market or desynthed back into market items.

    Most importantly, no "farmville" mechanics. Anything grown has a fixed time till harvest and your retainer that is a botanist can harvest it, or you can harvest it manually as a botanist. Nothing you can do can speed or rush anything along except planning in advance for weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    you know how you can go to the sky pirate base for the void ark quest line? that made me think why not allow us to get houses on islands which can effectively work as instanced housing for those who don't care for living in wards shared with other players.
    I would love to have an instanced little island here with a house and a little garden... it will never happend though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syunikiss View Post
    Or they could implement the housing option that ESO has: Buy a house from the item cash shop and it yours.
    Or SE could implement instanced housing like Eso, then we would not have the current issues we have today
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    Quote Originally Posted by syunikiss View Post
    Or they could implement the housing option that ESO has: Buy a house from the item cash shop and it yours.
    That would be fine if FFXIV housing was instanced like ESO, but they aren't. Which is part of the problem with FFXIV's system. Instanced housing has a few other problems, but I'd prefer those to what we have now.

    I finally scraped together enough money to buy a small beach front plot in Shirogane and I'm trying to get another couple million for the house proper. But all of that will mean nothing if they're sold out before I even have a chance to buy and some house flipper raises the lives to ridiculous amounts.

    It doesn't help that the whole system benefits people who already have houses even more.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 07-03-2017 at 09:25 PM.

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