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    Rohirrim's Avatar
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    Elbereth Gilthoniel
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 70

    Ninja vs Samurai vs Monk ?

    Greetings everyone. I am trying to decide which job to get to 70 :P Currently I have all these Jobs at 58-60. I am mostly interested to know how they compare in AoE damage since I 90% play dungeons and would like to have good aoe damage on trash pulls!

    I find Ninja and Samurai equal fun to play, well ninja little more :P For Monk I really cannot decide if I like or not... on one hand I like the theme of the class, but it is much more dependant on positionals than other 2 that make it little tiresom and actually more difficult for me to play good.

    So I would pick Monk only if its AoE damage is significantly higher than Ninja/Samurai... What do you think?
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    MomoOG's Avatar
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    Vicas Windwalker
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rohirrim View Post
    Greetings everyone. I am trying to decide which job to get to 70 :P Currently I have all these Jobs at 58-60. I am mostly interested to know how they compare in AoE damage since I 90% play dungeons and would like to have good aoe damage on trash pulls!

    I find Ninja and Samurai equal fun to play, well ninja little more :P For Monk I really cannot decide if I like or not... on one hand I like the theme of the class, but it is much more dependant on positionals than other 2 that make it little tiresom and actually more difficult for me to play good.

    So I would pick Monk only if its AoE damage is significantly higher than Ninja/Samurai... What do you think?
    In dungeon content SAM is by far the strongest.
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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Monk's aoe is pretty bursty, but doesn't have a very high sustained. Elixir Field + Howling Fist + Rockbreaker every 3 GCDs is all you have. Of course you can always burn perfect balance and spam rockbreaker, but then your opener is most likely screwed on the next boss. Arm of the destroyer is also there btw... but the damage it does for the TP it costs is so godawful that using it makes me cry.
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    SpeckledBurd's Avatar
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    Character
    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Samurai's single target beats Monk and Ninja's single target assuming equal skill, with Monk and Ninja being about equal. Samurai's AOE is also significantly stronger in smaller and Medium sized packs of Mobs, as most of its AOE actions scale down with more targets. Monk has great AOE that isn't subject to dropoff, so there's likely a point where it exceeds Samurai in AOE if a pull is massive enough, it's other main benefit is how sustainable it's AOE rotation is, as Monk has two TP recovery skills allowing for Almost indefinite Rockbreaker usage compared to Samurai which runs dry fairly quickly in my own experience.

    I don't know enough about Ninja AOE to say more than "it has a frog now".
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    Last edited by SpeckledBurd; 07-02-2017 at 11:41 PM.

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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    I don't know enough about Ninja AOE to say more than "it has a frog now".
    Ninja AOE isn't terrible. you can rip things 2 shreds very quickly with death blossom double katon with kassastsu and the hellfrog medium.

    Doton I tend not to use because either A. the tank is moving the mobs around far to much. or B. things are dead before doton hits full damage. though if you wanted to you could tcj fuma katon doton and then kassatsu another katon

    the other advantage is none of a ninjas aoes scale down on larger pulls unlike samurias.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 07-03-2017 at 07:47 AM.

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    Rohirrim's Avatar
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    Elbereth Gilthoniel
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    thanks for answering.. to be honest was hoping ninja to win but samurai is also fun to play hehe :P
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    Nobody Care
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    Phantom
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    Marauder Lv 33
    Samurai. Trust me.
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    Player
    Rohirrim's Avatar
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    Elbereth Gilthoniel
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNoob View Post
    Samurai. Trust me.
    hehe I will :P
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    Character
    Adelle Crescent
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 70
    Ninja AoE is probably the best out of any of any of the melee jobs. Frog, Doton, Katon, Kassatsu and Ten Chi Jin allows for so much damage. Befriend the AST for Arrow cards and you'll have so much fun, I know I do.

    Single target dps is also amazing and once the best in slot gear is released, we'll have an understanding of which dps is performing the best during raids because having our main stats is half of it.
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    Last edited by Adelaide3; 07-03-2017 at 05:56 AM.

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    Arc Papillon
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Depends on the dungeon, fight, raid, whatever. I usually out damage a fellow Sam, but that just may be be on my ish.

    Just flip a coin for nin and Sam. They're all very pretty DPS.
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