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    LordMaitreya's Avatar
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    Jsun El
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    Is a Blm really asking for a buff here? Seriously... .__.
    I find that odd as well especially since they are the second highest dps http://ffxiv.2digitalgames.de.

    Further more as easy as some of the other jobs are nothing is easier than black Mage.
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    Mystogan Faust
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LordMaitreya View Post
    I find that odd as well especially since they are the second highest dps http://ffxiv.2digitalgames.de.

    Further more as easy as some of the other jobs are nothing is easier than black Mage.
    define easy

    rotation wise yes BLM is easy but in an actual fight it's the hardest job in the game

    and I think BLM should have the highest dps since they have the least utility out of all jobs
    SAM has a slashing debuff as a great utility to help tanks

    SMN has old mch and bard utility to choose from + devotion which buffs a healer or a tank defense or a melee dmg
    RDM has a nice raid wide physical dmg buff and heals

    all BLM brings is their own damage + the role skills which can be used by other casters
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by itti18 View Post
    SMN has old mch and bard utility to choose from + devotion which buffs a healer or a tank defense or a melee dmg
    Devotion is more a "random" buff comparable with the rng of Asts cards - to use it effectively either you have to stop your rota or one of your grp has to chase your egi - in both ways someone lose dps. So mostlikely you just throw it randomly for a small buff on the one who stands nearby. It's nice to have but nothing you can seriously calculate with.

    Just sayin. It's in no way an utility which is outstanding : /
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-02-2017 at 07:56 AM.

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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMaitreya View Post
    I find that odd as well especially since they are the second highest dps http://ffxiv.2digitalgames.de.

    Further more as easy as some of the other jobs are nothing is easier than black Mage.
    BLM has a simple rotation, not the simplest, that title goes to RDM. But I would not call BLM easy, it IS the most challenging caster to master in heavy mechanic fights. You're talking to a former BLM who actually quit the job during 3.0 because of this.
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMaitreya View Post
    I find that odd as well especially since they are the second highest dps http://ffxiv.2digitalgames.de.

    Further more as easy as some of the other jobs are nothing is easier than black Mage.
    This has nothing to do with the topic.
    But please do not take the dummy HP information as an actual representation of dps.
    First, SE sets that HP (hence why any decently geared player clears this with like 20 seconds left).
    Second, that's dummy dps. Dps in a vacuum- once mechanics kick in, your real dps shows. When BLM has to juggle movement and cds to try and dps while doing mechanics, when MNK can lose GL stacks, when SMN needs to time Bahamut so it's not messed up by a transition. That's why RDM does so well right now- it can run around half the time and has no stacks/stances/whatever worries. The real dps is almost the dummy dps as they get affected by mechanics the least...

    If you look at actual fight data, you'll see BLM coming in a slightest bit ahead of RDM and SMN quite a bit behind.
    That's why dummy dps is fairly meaningless.
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    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMaitreya View Post
    I find that odd as well especially since they are the second highest dps http://ffxiv.2digitalgames.de.

    Further more as easy as some of the other jobs are nothing is easier than black Mage.
    Untrue, BLM is one of the hardest jobs to master. Easy to learn, hard to master because the moment you screw around
    dancing within AOE's you're done for. BLM's have to memorize mechanics almost more than anyone else
    or they lose their DPS and buffs. I dunno how BLM plays now but Ley Lines buff help a lot. It's still a pain
    in the ass trying to keep up with everything. RDM kinda took it's spot.
    Dualcast reigns supreme. - Double heals - Double Res - Most mobility essentially "on the go" caster thanks to Dual.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallhallix View Post
    BLM has a simple rotation, not the simplest, that title goes to RDM. But I would not call BLM easy, it IS the most challenging caster to master in heavy mechanic fights. You're talking to a former BLM who actually quit the job during 3.0 because of this.
    This guy said perfectly. I too, also quit thanks to this and moved on RDM.
    I just can't be bothered anymore. Again, no idea how BLM plays now.
    I'm sure they still dance around AoE's even with LL.
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    Last edited by Mikhaill; 07-02-2017 at 10:56 AM.