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    OgruMogru's Avatar
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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    Blm always was stationary - I can understand the demands for dmg buffs and cd-reduces (last more or less...) but mobility is as a-typisch for blms as utilities...


    You don't wanna end up like Brd, do you?... hell fun to play but dps to the ground... every cls got a backdrop somewhere - excluding sam/rdm atm ^^'
    By mobility spells I mean Aetherial Manipulation and Between the Lines. Y'know the spells that have always been described as mobility spells. I don't mean I want us to be able to run and cast, that's not the point at all. Just let us utilize the skills we already have more effectively! I want Blm to be the casting equivalent of Sam. So no utility and high DPS. I want to still be punished for messing up and not knowing a fight but I want that to be on me, not on the incredibly restrictive timers that we're dealing with at the moment which are completely at odds with the way fights are put together.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by OgruMogru View Post
    I want Blm to be the casting equivalent of Sam.
    That won't happen - Sam & Rdm are just overpowered yet because they are the promoted cls for this update. SE already said that.
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    Osh1mA's Avatar
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    Oshima Cromwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    SE already said that.
    Any links??
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    That won't happen - Sam & Rdm are just overpowered yet because they are the promoted cls for this update. SE already said that.
    It's funny, because I'm pretty sure NIN is the most powerful dps right now (and has been for a while).
    I'm not saying the other jobs need adjustments, I'm just scratching my head as the most centralising dps job flies under everyone's radar.
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    Oshima Cromwell
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    That won't happen - Sam & Rdm are just overpowered yet because they are the promoted cls for this update. SE already said that.
    Well i guess, when you do sub 3k dps on EX primals you might think that sam and rdm are OP but they're not...
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    Rhia Nara
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by OgruMogru View Post
    By mobility spells I mean Aetherial Manipulation and Between the Lines. Y'know the spells that have always been described as mobility spells. I don't mean I want us to be able to run and cast, that's not the point at all. Just let us utilize the skills we already have more effectively! I want Blm to be the casting equivalent of Sam. So no utility and high DPS. I want to still be punished for messing up and not knowing a fight but I want that to be on me, not on the incredibly restrictive timers that we're dealing with at the moment which are completely at odds with the way fights are put together.
    I wish I could upvote that more than once.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    I never said that I want smn on that lvl where did you get this expectation from? o.o

    I'm aware of why Sam & Rdm are that strong but I am not aware of what kind of discussion you are trying to get me in...
    Both cls are to strong for their effort compared to all other cls thats a simple fact - so what point are you exactly trying do make?
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-11-2017 at 09:37 PM.

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    Osh1mA's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    I never said that I want smn on that lvl where did you get this expectation from? o.o
    Why are you comparing their dps with sams then??
    Any links where SE talking about OPness of new jobs to hype them?

    Quote Originally Posted by soslinky View Post
    I think he's just saying that he wants an increase in DPS. Not SAM-tier levels of DPS.
    No, he's saying that new jobs are intentionaly made OP by SE.
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    Last edited by Osh1mA; 07-11-2017 at 09:45 PM.

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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osh1mA View Post
    Why are you comparing their dps with sams then??
    No, he's saying that new jobs are intentionaly made OP by SE.
    Because you compared my dps to those in the first way lol? And yeah SHEs saying that both cls are just so strong with less to none punishment in messing up their rota - because they are new and should promote SB content. If you don't see that (what everybody else here see as well) you are just blind o.o

    there is absolutely no reason to discuss that sam/rdm are stronger and easier to play than other dds - so whats your point?
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    Maxu Habufan
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    Tonberry
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    I think he's just saying that he wants an increase in DPS. Not SAM-tier levels of DPS.
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