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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post

    2) No group utility buff. If Presence of Mind or Thin Air affected the whole party I'd be satisfied.
    healing is your utility. People forget healing is impotent, and just let ppl die. I saw a tank @ 20% hp get nailed while the AST was dpsing. They were using their CD well from what I could tell. Just AST felt dps was more important then curing a tank.

    I did the (spoiler final boss) fight and lost more often due to 2 healers not healing, or leaving dead dps outa spite.

    And my g/f who used to hate having a whm in the party, now prefers a whm over any other healer. With the increased mp return of syphon strike and deliruim and blood price make blood price last 30 sec. So even if a whm does holy spam during bp, it doesn't hurt her ability to keep up mp.


    the only people upset so far imo, are people who refuse to adjust to the changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    healing is your utility.
    Every healer heals. WHM is the only one that has nothing but healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterLucie View Post
    Every healer heals. WHM is the only one that has nothing but healing.
    Highest personal DPS. Which is actually a thing now that they have godlike MP management. A thing for good WHMs anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    Highest personal DPS. Which is actually a thing now that they have godlike MP management. A thing for good WHMs anyway.
    I think that is the point of whm now. It's got the easiest time handling tasks in the overworld and then can heal in raids as well. Sort of like the Inverse of Rdm, which can dps, but also heal itself well enough to solo in the overworld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    healing is your utility. People forget healing is impotent, and just let ppl die.

    well, cant really help it if healing is impotent, can we?


    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post

    ...And my g/f ...

    obligatory quote is obligatory.



    Oh, and also, letting the tank drop to 20% is perfectly fine. So please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. Ty <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    Oh, and also, letting the tank drop to 20% is perfectly fine. So please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. Ty <3
    There was more to that message than simply a low health tank. Low health is fine until your tank dies because you wouldn't spend a gcd to put a heal on them. Should make sure you understand the message before you reply in a condescending way.

    There's no reason to let your tank float at 20% for more than a couple gcd at most, by the way. You're risking death from autoattacks at that point, particularly with multiple enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepyjo2 View Post
    There was more to that message than simply a low health tank. Low health is fine until your tank dies because you wouldn't spend a gcd to put a heal on them. Should make sure you understand the message before you reply in a condescending way.

    There's no reason to let your tank float at 20% for more than a couple gcd at most, by the way. You're risking death from autoattacks at that point, particularly with multiple enemies.

    except that this guy has posted more than once in the past how he (and his g/f ofc, lol) find healers who let their tanks drop below 50% regularly, LAZY.

    So before you comment on my comment ,you should make sure you know all the circumstances.
    He's one of the "omg pls always keep us above 90% health" guys.

    Also,thanks for your advice. Who would've thought that a tank could die to multiple adds when he stays at 20% health for too long? Mindblowing.

    (because no one said to "keep" a tank at 20%,but rather it was about letting your tank "drop" to 20% before you heal up to maximise your dps window before you heal up with CDs etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    except that this guy has posted more than once in the past how he (and his g/f ofc, lol) find healers who let their tanks drop below 50% regularly, LAZY.

    So before you comment on my comment ,you should make sure you know all the circumstances.
    He's one of the "omg pls always keep us above 90% health" guys.

    Also,thanks for your advice. Who would've thought that a tank could die to multiple adds when he stays at 20% health for too long? Mindblowing.

    (because no one said to "keep" a tank at 20%,but rather it was about letting your tank "drop" to 20% before you heal up to maximise your dps window before you heal up with CDs etc)
    learn 2 healer. but sure. My g/f wasn't the only tank I've seen it happen to. Please adjust to the changes instead of wasting everyones time.


    it wasn't a couple of adds either, it was the last boss in castrum albania the 1 with tank buster+ bleed. the AST wasn't curing or removing bleed. So maybe you should read first. And ya. keeping tanks @ least 80% is better, more so in latter dungeons. But you supposedly quit ff14 because heaker, at least that what you said before launch lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    learn 2 healer. but sure. My g/f wasn't the only tank I've seen it happen to. Please adjust to the changes instead of wasting everyones time.


    it wasn't a couple of adds either, it was the last boss in castrum albania the 1 with tank buster+ bleed. the AST wasn't curing or removing bleed. So maybe you should read first. And ya. keeping tanks @ least 80% is better, more so in latter dungeons. But you supposedly quit ff14 because heaker, at least that what you said before launch lol.
    I don't know if Albania has a Castrum. That said, it's probably the less experienced healers who need to "learn 2 healer." It's entirely possible to let a tank's HP dip while still being able to keep them alive through heavy hits. WHM has a couple emergency buttons, after all.
    And maybe you should leave the healing to the healers and talk down a little less.

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    And maybe get a better looking Stone 4? It looks like I'm summoning Minecraft blocks... it's so ugly to me.
    I would actually like to summon Minecraft blocks, and I don't even play it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    well, cant really help it if healing is impotent, can we?





    obligatory quote is obligatory.



    Oh, and also, letting the tank drop to 20% is perfectly fine. So please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. Ty <3
    I know what I'm talking about, I tamk as well. Leaving a tank @ 20% ho on the final boss of castrum albaini (w/e it spelled) is idiotic. Since the 50% hp tank better which has a bleed effect. Tanks lost foresight, so no more defence boost. And drk only have 3 defensiv e cd.

    May not wanna comment On stuff you don't know about. And your just iching for me to report ya, on harassing me over something pretty minor.
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