I'm enjoying the new WHM >,>

[BigRed5392]

2) No group utility buff. If Presence of Mind or Thin Air affected the whole party I'd be satisfied.

healing is your utility. People forget healing is impotent, and just let ppl die. I saw a tank @ 20% hp get nailed while the AST was dpsing. They were using their CD well from what I could tell. Just AST felt dps was more important then curing a tank.

I did the (spoiler final boss) fight and lost more often due to 2 healers not healing, or leaving dead dps outa spite.

And my g/f who used to hate having a whm in the party, now prefers a whm over any other healer. With the increased mp return of syphon strike and deliruim and blood price make blood price last 30 sec. So even if a whm does holy spam during bp, it doesn't hurt her ability to keep up mp.


the only people upset so far imo, are people who refuse to adjust to the changes.

[MisterLucie]

healing is your utility.

Every healer heals. WHM is the only one that has nothing but healing.

[Kabzy]

Every healer heals. WHM is the only one that has nothing but healing.

Highest personal DPS. Which is actually a thing now that they have godlike MP management. A thing for good WHMs anyway.

[Colt47]

Highest personal DPS. Which is actually a thing now that they have godlike MP management. A thing for good WHMs anyway.

I think that is the point of whm now. It's got the easiest time handling tasks in the overworld and then can heal in raids as well. Sort of like the Inverse of Rdm, which can dps, but also heal itself well enough to solo in the overworld.

[Faliandra]

healing is your utility. People forget healing is impotent, and just let ppl die.

well, cant really help it if healing is impotent, can we?

...And my g/f ...

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Oh, and also, letting the tank drop to 20% is perfectly fine. So please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. Ty <3

[Sleepyjo2]

Oh, and also, letting the tank drop to 20% is perfectly fine. So please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. Ty <3

There was more to that message than simply a low health tank. Low health is fine until your tank dies because you wouldn't spend a gcd to put a heal on them. Should make sure you understand the message before you reply in a condescending way.

There's no reason to let your tank float at 20% for more than a couple gcd at most, by the way. You're risking death from autoattacks at that point, particularly with multiple enemies.

[Faliandra]

There was more to that message than simply a low health tank. Low health is fine until your tank dies because you wouldn't spend a gcd to put a heal on them. Should make sure you understand the message before you reply in a condescending way.

There's no reason to let your tank float at 20% for more than a couple gcd at most, by the way. You're risking death from autoattacks at that point, particularly with multiple enemies.

except that this guy has posted more than once in the past how he (and his g/f ofc, lol) find healers who let their tanks drop below 50% regularly, LAZY.

So before you comment on my comment ,you should make sure you know all the circumstances.
He's one of the "omg pls always keep us above 90% health" guys.

Also,thanks for your advice. Who would've thought that a tank could die to multiple adds when he stays at 20% health for too long? Mindblowing.

(because no one said to "keep" a tank at 20%,but rather it was about letting your tank "drop" to 20% before you heal up to maximise your dps window before you heal up with CDs etc)

[BigRed5392]

well, cant really help it if healing is impotent, can we?





obligatory quote is obligatory.



Oh, and also, letting the tank drop to 20% is perfectly fine. So please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. Ty <3

I know what I'm talking about, I tamk as well. Leaving a tank @ 20% ho on the final boss of castrum albaini (w/e it spelled) is idiotic. Since the 50% hp tank better which has a bleed effect. Tanks lost foresight, so no more defence boost. And drk only have 3 defensiv e cd.

May not wanna comment On stuff you don't know about. And your just iching for me to report ya, on harassing me over something pretty minor.

[Faliandra]

learn 2 healer. but sure. My g/f wasn't the only tank I've seen it happen to. Please adjust to the changes instead of wasting everyones time.


it wasn't a couple of adds either, it was the last boss in castrum albania the 1 with tank buster+ bleed. the AST wasn't curing or removing bleed. So maybe you should read first. And ya. keeping tanks @ least 80% is better, more so in latter dungeons. But you supposedly quit ff14 because heaker, at least that what you said before launch lol.

yeah, while you whine on the forums about how you and your gf get victimized everywhere you go in DF, I beat savages and ex primals as a healer - while dpsing. While the tanks sometimes drop low in health because tankbusters etc.
And you wanna tell me learn 2 healer? Honestly? Your whole understanding of the game and lack of experience exactly SHOWS here. It's normal that tanks get low....just as its normal to heal them up quickly too. It's really easy to get them up to full health too, because you can prepare for everything in this scripted game: a fact you still dont seem to have grasped. I did read your post but I'm not exactly referring to "that one AST", im talking in general. There's a couple of bosses where you can end up with low HP.
Does it matter`? Nah, cos its so easy to heal up ppl quickly. I'd also suggest YOU start reading because you quoted me explaining how its not about KEEPING them at 20%,but rather that its ok to let them DROP down to 20% before you heal up again.
I'm very convinced you are wasting more people's time than me. Because I still do good damage on my healers while keeping everyone alive.
So LOL @ your 80% health logics.

Would you also be so kind to find me the post where I supposedly quit ff14? Because I dont remember ever saying anything like this.

I know what I'm talking about, I tamk as well. Leaving a tank @ 20% ho on the final boss of castrum albaini (w/e it spelled) is idiotic. Since the 50% hp tank better which has a bleed effect. Tanks lost foresight, so no more defence boost. And drk only have 3 defensiv e cd.

May not wanna comment On stuff you don't know about. And your just iching for me to report ya, on harassing me over something pretty minor.

from all the stuff I've read from you up until now, I am pretty convinced you DONT know what you are talking about. Playing a class doesnt mean you know what you're talking about. or else no one would ever complain about ice mages and ruin mages
or about tanks who dont know what cooldowns are...because, hey, they're playing the class so they have to know what theyre talking about,right? For reference: you only have drk at 60, I have all 3 tanks at 60 at least.

"Since the 50% hp tank better which has a bleed effect." <--- Sorry, I cant make sense out of this phrase,hence I cant comment of it.

Foresight was a pretty crappy CD btw. DRKs also have different means other than defensive CDs to mitigate incoming damage properly, so when they really need a defensive CD, they should have them ready.
I have already seen a few good and sturdy drks in SB. Also: healers have CDs as well. I dont need to spam cure II to keep a tank topped at all times. This may be the time to tell you "learn 2 healer/tank".

And there we go again with the victimizing. If you are ANYTHING ingame like you are on these forums, I am not surprised how you and your gf keep getting "harassed" and kicked everywhere.
Please feel free to report me, I honestly dont care. Because this indeed something pretty minor and ridiculous.

I wont respond to you anymore though. So safe yourself the effort and time to reply.

[SecretCrowds]

The problem which many people surfaced was about the design.


First off is the lily system. Cooldown reduction sounds great on paper but not practically. That's why AST always say the Spear card is useless. Put it this way. You reduce your tetragrammaton cooldown from 60 seconds to 48 seconds. Now, as a healer, you aren't going to use it once it goes off cd. You are only going to use it when you really need to. Most likely, you will end up using it way after the cooldown has ended. Same with asylum and assize.

And the confession system. It just plain sucks.

Finally will be the role abilities. They take the essential abilities from our core pool of abilities and make them "optional".

Don't get me wrong. WHM definitely is not struggling to heal. It's the design that people are mad about. The AST changes actually build up on their weaknesses. They now have a way to use "redundant cards", such as the aforementioned Spear, instead of outright discarding them. The WHM changes seem half-assed in comparison. It's like they design WHM for PvP first and realised it was great in PvP and then transposed it to PvE without much thought.