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    Nice work, and congrats

    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Isnt that what people did in Divine Might in XI?

    I dont see it as cheating just another tactic.
    "And don't say the raise/reset strat isn't an exploit. If it were intended game mechanics you wouldn't immediately get kicked from the battlefield with all party members dead. If it were intended game mechanics it would work like FFXI where you still have 5+ minutes to reraise and recover before you're kicked. But if nothing happens, you're all kicked and game over. It clearly is an exploit."
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    Last edited by fusional; 12-19-2011 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    Id agree with the Batraal thing but id say the main reason there was no outcry was simply because from what i remember none of the early kills used that way to kill him and most if not everyone just killed it the normal way, the problem now is that quite a large number of LS's are using the exploit way to kill the moogles because simply put it is significantly easier and removes alot of the dps requirements from the fight.
    Whether or not any of the early kills used this method is a moot point. If any of the people that are sitting here spamming "oh my god this is bullshit people are cheating" ever, at any point, went back and killed batraal after wiping to him and killing a portion, if not all of his adds instead of saying "it wouldn't be a legit kill if we went back even though theres still 30 minutes left on the clock, lets just leave the fight and start over" they have lost all credibility in this argument, it is really that simple.

    Plain and simple, the fight is a joke compared to what batraal darkhold as a whole was, and what ifrit was. in 4 hours last night my linkshell went from testing out setups to coming within a boot from the server after killing 4 moogles after the king spawned and I have no doubt that when we practice it this afternoon we will have the fight down. I would like to add, this is without using the exploit, and with someone who got their first and only level 50 3 days ago.
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    Last edited by Req; 12-19-2011 at 02:04 AM.

  3. #43
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    toasting in a roll bread?
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    People super tanked Divine Might -- The only wipe one was depending on the Ark Angel Mithra's pet since some of them couldn't be slept or would sleepga (mandy) or to recover after a bad 2 hour (Mijin Gakure.) The one they're referring to in XIV is a different type of situation.
    Not on the servers I went to (Shiva, Fairy and Lakshmi), Everyone would go nuts on 2 of the angels and then wipe and rebuff and go back in. That is how I have always done it with any group I went with.

    I just dont see this as cheating, its like saying that if you use NIN as a tank you are cheating because it was never meant for that, was not an intended mechanic of the game. But people did all the time.

    All I see is people butthurt that they didnt get first world kill or first server kill and so they have to see the people who did were cheating because they used this tactic rather than another one which involves staying alive.

    Bunch of cry babies.
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    Last edited by viion; 12-19-2011 at 02:12 AM.

  5. #45
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    BUT EXPLOITS WILL GET YOU BANNED! All 20 of you are doomed................lol
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    Last edited by Scherwiz; 12-19-2011 at 02:22 AM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Not on the servers I went to (Shiva, Fairy and Lakshmi), Everyone would go nuts on 2 of the angels and then wipe and rebuff and go back in. That is how I have always done it with any group I went with.

    I just dont see this as cheating, its like saying that if you use NIN as a tank you are cheating because it was never meant for that, was not an intended mechanic of the game. But people did all the time.

    All I see is people butthurt that they didnt get first world kill or first server kill and so they have to see the people who did were cheating because they used this tactic rather than another one which involves staying alive.

    Bunch of cry babies.
    Using cross class abilities is cheating because they are weaker and weren't meant to be used on that job.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    Using cross class abilities is cheating because they are weaker and weren't meant to be used on that job.
    That's not even trying to reach lol.
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    *munch* *munch* eating popcorn, since this thread is better than Soap Opera
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Not on the servers I went to (Shiva, Fairy and Lakshmi), Everyone would go nuts on 2 of the angels and then wipe and rebuff and go back in. That is how I have always done it with any group I went with.

    I just dont see this as cheating, its like saying that if you use NIN as a tank you are cheating because it was never meant for that, was not an intended mechanic of the game. But people did all the time.

    All I see is people butthurt that they didnt get first world kill or first server kill and so they have to see the people who did were cheating because they used this tactic rather than another one which involves staying alive.

    Bunch of cry babies.
    All I see is people being bad and resorting to an exploit for a fight that isn't extremely hard to finish in the first place.
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  10. #50
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    Pandora Vainglory
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    Honestly, I only took one stab at the fight on the first day and haven't been on to attempt anymore (Weekend = Party Time. Party Time > FF.) But after seeing what's going on with the fight here on the forums, I'm a little weary to go at it since I'd like to actually do the fight and not the raise exploit. I feel kinda letdown that the battle devs let something like that slip through the cracks when this fight was supposed to cause a challenge for at least a business week.
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