Has anyone beaten good king mog without cheating?

[Raikki]

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Manafont, When are you going to complete your quest? Or your LS was only able to kill just the King? Anyone wanna count it as a win if you've only killed the Moogle King? lol

Oh my god, how did I miss that? I was so wrapped up with adjusting the time zone it didn't even strike me that he didn't actually beat the fight. I apologize for backing him up earlier.

[Icehunter]

I guess most of you who claim this is an exploit; never played XI and if you did you never did a BCNM where you can raise after dying and hate is reset, giving you a chance to recover.

It's a good thing they fixed that exploit after almost 10 years. >.>

Can't wait for this game to go paid. So anyone not paying can't post here.

[DGMart]

This thread is hilarious... Fighting and crying over who has the biggest E-P3nis.... I mean really? Get a life seriously! Why can't some of you people play this game to have what little enjoyment we actually do get out of this. When 2.0 comes out then talk but until then please do some of us a favor and stfu.

[Treach]

It's all about epeen bro, cause how big it is in game is directly proportional to real life. If you don't have all jobs and crafts at 50 you won't get far in life, and you'll never get those irl miqtoes unless you are 7/7 moogle weapons.

[Neptune]

"Because when everyone dies you get kicked" is a ridiculous claim that raising to wipe hate is an exploit. Everyone is kicked when everyone is simultaneously dead because thats what SE decided should happen once everyone is simultaneously dead....

Because if everyone else is dead what the hell else are you gonna do? Did anyone notice that Reraise is not in this game? In FFXI you were removed after 3 mins or so, but in FFXIV there is no reraise. Did you think the dev team would leave you on the ground for 3 mins before spitting you out? Did you think you should have to manually return? Of course the dev team is going to try to add a little convenience to these BCNMs.

I think people are getting confused. Yes, it's a WORKAROUND to avoid getting kicked out if you wipe due to the convenience of the feature that's built in DUE TO THE LACK OF RERAISE. Workarounds and exploits (two separate things) both involve creative thinking, which is where people are getting hung up.

I think the truer problem is that people can't tell if people did it the "hard" way or the "very hard" way. I understand that many of you want to know, and I also understand that you want to defend your reputations. Don't be so weak about it. Just post your proof that you did it from start to finish without wiping and people will respect you. It makes you look weak if you have to berate others that have the achievement based on it eroding your sense of accomplishment.

[GreyJorildyn]

I'm still trying to figure out why any of this matters.

[SirOleas]

I'm still trying to figure out why any of this matters.

IT JUST DOES OK?! (It doesn't)

[Celeras]

I'm still trying to figure out why any of this matters.

Baddies will always attempt to justify their badness. It's the catch22 of being terrible at games.

[Deli]

I'm still trying to figure out why any of this matters.

Of course it does! it's part of the equation of T.M.I !!!
without it, personal T.M.I. value will be below national average!!

rabble rabble rabble

[Xoo]

Apparently they can tank alright but their dps output still sucks. I'm just talking off things I've read though, not sure how accurate that info is.

PGL has been getting the shitstick from the get-go, and not much has changed.