Pre-Omega tank DPS and stats?

[Cadmus]

I'm curious where tanks stand atm (especially DRKs) because of the many complaints in damage and having to know new rotations and stats. If you feel you've current BIS and know your class rotation, please share your findings. And what stats are you prioritizing?

With 270 right-side I used 70 food and pulled 2940 on the 70 extreme dummies with PLD.
2840 w/o food. And clear the actual run of Lak-ex with 2800 as OT.

With 310-320 MT right-side (full tank set, no food) I got 2400 on ex-dummies. This is still a significant increase from the 1650ish max pld parse on the A12s dummies with BIS in 3.5. About a 50% increase in DPS despite the Vit nerf (as high a % gain as most DPS classes).

I'm prioritizing crit, tenacity, and det. I still feel crit is king (on tank) despite the weight nerf. Did many test runs with Det/Ten not being very noticeably different (tho testing stat vs stat, while maintaining all other variables, means you can only work with about 200 point differences in melds). My healer partner did notice a difference when I tried a lot more ten tho. SS doesn't increase auto attack speed, so not effective with Sword Oath as was originally thought. Dhit values on tanks is so low (since it's not on any tank gear) that I don't think it's worth melding it vs melding one of the exponential stats instead (e.g. crit) that you'll already be high with. It also adds no value to clemency (should you be a pld).

ETA: using the 270 gear is temporary. All future gear is going to be locked, so tanks won't have that anymore to rely on.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

First and foremost, ignore tenacity entirely. It's a garbage stat weighed significantly lower than determination. As for accessories, we won't know until Savage releases and we can actively gauge the incoming damage. The general consensuses I've been seeing is for tanks to equip two Slaying accessories (Crit/Det or Crit/Direct) and phasing in more as they get comfortable. Of course, this could all be rendered moot if the devs lock previous accessories too. Basically, it's wait and see at the moment.

[Claire_Pendragon]

From what Im hearing, and not tested, everyone says Direct Hit is best, then Crit, then Det. With Tenacity being pretty bad. (unless you REALLY need the -3% dmg taken on prog, and you go full blown tenacity to reach that.)

[Nuclearducky]

I'm parsing about 2000-2100 for ilvl 300, all MT accessories and no materia melded. DRK.

Out of curiosity, is DH worth it if you're still using MT accessories? Since you'd be working your way up from the base 364 amount, I wonder if crit is more viable at that point.

[Niyuka]

Do you meld +STR into your VIT accessories, or still just straight +Crit?

[Deus_ex_Machina]

Out of curiosity, is DH worth it if you're still using MT accessories?

Do you meld +STR into your VIT accessories, or still just straight +Crit?

100% strength on accessories! This is the source of your damage output, holy spirit, and self heals.

Left side with direct hit.

Currently, crit got scaled down due to the direct hit implementation. so it's not as high as it was.

However, what's in interesting is skill speed is very valuable now as well. Since it ties directly with the damage of your auto attacks output (it doesn't increase the rate of attacking though). There was a testing post on reddit. TLDR: at the 10th skill speed tier (982sks), you can get an extra GCD per minute, so effectively you raised your over all chance of getting directly frequency by 4%.

[Dizzy_Derp]

Tenacity is garbage roughly 5× as bad as parry was. Direct hit however is your new god stat it's scaling amazingly and higher than crit so you just put all dh in left side. Right side right now is gonna be full 270 str with vit or direct hit melds if your comfortable with your hp. In the future if it gets locked or scaling changes itll be str melds.

[Cadmus]

Could someone with dhit 6 melds do a dummy parse b4 omega?
And try to parse over 3000, w/o food, on Susano Ex. Because you can with full Tenacity/Det.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMF12_fls4
Using this as the parse calculator. http://ffxiv.2digitalgames.de/

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing that Tenacity is garbage. I'd just like to see proof. I just rather not meld dhit 6s on all my gear atm to test it if there's someone already with that willing to.

[Lewtskie]

Tenacity is garbage roughly 5× as bad as parry was. Direct hit however is your new god stat it's scaling amazingly and higher than crit so you just put all dh in left side. Right side right now is gonna be full 270 str with vit or direct hit melds if your comfortable with your hp. In the future if it gets locked or scaling changes itll be str melds.

See, I understand the strength of DH, but has testing been done to figure the effectiveness of it on tanks? Seems like you need a lot of it for it to feel effective and it's not a natural stat to us.

[Cadmus]

See, I understand the strength of DH, but has testing been done to figure the effectiveness of it on tanks? Seems like you need a lot of it for it to feel effective and it's not a natural stat to us.

Yea I'm kinda curious where that thinking is comin from too.

Crit and Tenacity is all over tank gear. And it scales exponentially, as in the more you have, the better it is. So a 200 meld point in Crit going from 1300 to 1500 is >> 200 point increase in DHIT going from 340 to 540 I'd think. Same with Tenacity.

I'd like a tank with full Dhit melds to outperform that guy usin Tenacity + Det tho.