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  1. #11
    Player
    BluexBird's Avatar
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    Blue Bird
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Ya OK so I got tired of everyone complaining about how hard it is to keep enmity, and how it's so annoying to play Warrior now because they no longer have Flash.

    Well... I just went into Kugane Castle with all my VIT accessories, SIXTY THOUSAND HP!!! @__@ Told the DRG + SAM to try their hardest to steal agro from me. I pulled as many trash as I could in each phase (except during Summoners).

    I lost agro once, and that was because I got distracted. I just switched to it, used Provoke + Overpower, and focused it. Nothing else happened.

    So what's going on? Am I some sort of AMAZING TANK for being able to pull this off? No... that can't be it. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that everyone who has been having enmity issues, is most likely trying to tank dungeon trash in their DPS stance. Please stop.
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  2. #12
    Player
    Etrius's Avatar
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    Location
    Ishgard
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    90
    Character
    Etrius Ballard
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    The only acceptable way to fix this is making Tenacity as good as Direct Hit.

    I've been focusing on my DRK since 4.0 early-launch and the first thing i noticed is that it wasn't a fair change:

    Accuracy > Direct Hit: DPS now has 100% hit rate, and hits harder!
    Parry > Tenacity: Tank Parry rates lowered, damage/heal/mitigation increase is non-existent.
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  3. #13
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    EusisLandale's Avatar
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    Character
    Eira Landale
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    But the comment about shirk was really off.
    It's less about Red Mages who actually use their tools. It's not even about Scatter either. All of that is within reason. You find a Red Mage doing all that, maybe one thing will drift away from you on the rare occasion.
    It's about the ones who go out of their way to pick a single thing out of a big pack and just blow it up until it comes to eat their face. But if you adjust yourself to deal with it suddenly they find themselves a new target, so you're stuck trying to keep at your aoe enmity generation while figuring out which one's bailing on the pack next. The ones that do this, they also seem to be the ones never using their enmity tools either.
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  4. #14
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    Lannybaby's Avatar
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    Character
    Lann Devereux
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 97
    Many dpsers seem to think it's cool to pull off of the tank. Instead of switching targets like a decent player, they will blow everything they have on a single target until they pull, then insult the tank.
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  5. #15
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    Junyroku's Avatar
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    Character
    Gabriel Xander
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    Ya OK so I got tired of everyone complaining about how hard it is to keep enmity, I have come to the conclusion that everyone who has been having enmity issues, is most likely trying to tank dungeon trash in their DPS stance. Please stop.
    When you are facing one mob is more than obvious duh, STOP assuming all tanks wants to swap to "DPS" stance, if you really are tanking before the patch you like me and many others noticed that something is going wrong
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  6. #16
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    Bdyer's Avatar
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    Character
    Alduin Mik'tala
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Junyroku View Post
    When you are facing one mob is more than obvious duh, STOP assuming all tanks wants to swap to "DPS" stance, if you really are tanking before the patch you like me and many others noticed that something is going wrong
    Also WAR has the easiest time holding aggro in groups.

    Overpower 130 potency increased enmity total 650? In tank stance
    Unleash 50 potency increased enemity 250?
    Flash 500 potency
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  7. #17
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    kulsor's Avatar
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    Character
    Sooty Underfoot
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    what I do on pulls

    trash packs: unmend>1 or 2 unleash>AD till oom>hard slash>syphon strike>AD, repeat hard slash>syphon strike>AD a few times if needed
    boss: dark arts>unmend>CnS>hard slash>dark arts>spinning slash>power slash>hard slash>spinning slash>power slash, usually good on threat then
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  8. #18
    Player
    Odd's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Tiri Thon
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Enmity*

    Sorry, I had to.
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  9. #19
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Character
    Cyrillo Rongway
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    2. Red Mages in particular seem to have an unhealthy obsession with trying to pull off the tank. Give them what they want: Shirk them until they learn to properly use Diversion and Lucid Dreaming.
    RDMs just generate an absurd amount of hate even with Diversion. This won't fix anything.
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  10. #20
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    Hruodig's Avatar
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    Character
    Hruodig Hruodiger
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    Ya OK so I got tired of everyone complaining about how hard it is to keep enmity, and how it's so annoying to play Warrior now because they no longer have Flash.

    Well... I just went into Kugane Castle with all my VIT accessories, SIXTY THOUSAND HP!!! @__@ Told the DRG + SAM to try their hardest to steal agro from me. I pulled as many trash as I could in each phase (except during Summoners).

    I lost agro once, and that was because I got distracted. I just switched to it, used Provoke + Overpower, and focused it. Nothing else happened.

    So what's going on? Am I some sort of AMAZING TANK for being able to pull this off? No... that can't be it. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that everyone who has been having enmity issues, is most likely trying to tank dungeon trash in their DPS stance. Please stop.
    Were these dps randoms? You need to control for if your dps are actually good or not.
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