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    Junyroku's Avatar
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    Gabriel Xander
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80

    Enemity needs...

    Sup people, well im main dark and i love it, but maybe is just me or enemity is kinda broken? now is more difficult keep aggro more than the 50% in multiples mobs, enemity combo plus unleash in 3.0 was supreme, now i need to do it more than 3 times to keep aggro and is just frustating when you have all the aggro and in matter of seconds one member of the party mostly samurai or red mage keep the 80 or 90% of the aggro, maybe the tenacity broken thing is the cause or the 3.0 vit+str scale?
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    Ragology's Avatar
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    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 62
    Unleash's potency got nerfed, didn't it?
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    Junyroku's Avatar
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    Gabriel Xander
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Yeap and if im not wrong they add 5% more enemit, but in mi experience im not seeing that extra
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    Phafi Flailspike
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    potencies scale off of STR alone now, VIT does nothing for you holding hate. put on i270 STR accessories
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    EusisLandale's Avatar
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    Character
    Eira Landale
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    1. Stick to Abyssal Drain over Unleash unless your MP is low.
    2. Red Mages in particular seem to have an unhealthy obsession with trying to pull off the tank. Give them what they want: Shirk them until they learn to properly use Diversion and Lucid Dreaming.
    3. Related, but a lot of tanks are still of the mindset where they can sit out of tank stance all day. Don't do it. Not without a team you can trust to know how to handle their enmity.
    4. Tenacity is kinda crap right now, seems to have the same scaling as Parry. It's not as bad as Parry, given that it's not RNG and is doing two things, but it's still crap. Direct Hit melds are your friend right now.
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    Character
    Shaddoll Wendigo
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Haven't played with Warrior yet. But DRK has some issues holding hate and Paladin is a complete heart attack and a half. I go and pull and already have enemies being ripped off me if the DPS are on the ball. Before SB when they scaled STR with VIT it was easier. Now they made this change and we're back (Not as bad as way back) fighting to keep hate unless it's a boss and we can focus on it.
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    Vaeldus Lunarys
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    This is something I can agree with and have noticed. Honestly I am unsure what the change should be but enmity should be looked at a bit.
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    Kael Gallagos
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Agreed - even if I can hold aggro, constantly throwing overpowers on EVERY PULL just to hold aggro isn't fun. Mitigating damage, and doing damage (when safe) is.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Abyssal drain 3 times, hate combo the focus target.

    If people are splitting dps, second-hit the lower dps, third hit the higher.

    Literally hasn't changed from low level to now.

    Edit: If it's a hate happy Black Mage like me, letting me get smacked around a bit to remember my threat reductions isn't a terrible idea :P
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    1. Stick to Abyssal Drain over Unleash unless your MP is low.
    2. Red Mages in particular seem to have an unhealthy obsession with trying to pull off the tank. Give them what they want: Shirk them until they learn to properly use Diversion and Lucid Dreaming.
    3. Related, but a lot of tanks are still of the mindset where they can sit out of tank stance all day. Don't do it. Not without a team you can trust to know how to handle their enmity.
    4. Tenacity is kinda crap right now, seems to have the same scaling as Parry. It's not as bad as Parry, given that it's not RNG and is doing two things, but it's still crap. Direct Hit melds are your friend right now.
    I was going to say the same about unleash, as its now 50% less enmity, and with less STR, less enmity as well.

    But the comment about shirk was really off.
    Diversion is only up every 3rd fight. The other 2 are left with lucid dream, which if i pull hate pretty much on the 1st -3rd GCD, then popping it that soon is a waste, as the next GCD ill be back at the top, i try to pop it a few more GCDs in. (and even then, its usually only up every other fight, so thats pretty much 33% of the time I dont have anything to lower threat. And my AoE spam is 2 buttons pretty much. Not much else can be done. I keep hearing tanks complain about Skatter threat, but usually its those who only AoE 2-4 times, mainly to try and conserve on resources. (Which only WAR really has issues before steel cyclone.)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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