Enemity needs...

[Junyroku]

Sup people, well im main dark and i love it, but maybe is just me or enemity is kinda broken? now is more difficult keep aggro more than the 50% in multiples mobs, enemity combo plus unleash in 3.0 was supreme, now i need to do it more than 3 times to keep aggro and is just frustating when you have all the aggro and in matter of seconds one member of the party mostly samurai or red mage keep the 80 or 90% of the aggro, maybe the tenacity broken thing is the cause or the 3.0 vit+str scale?

[Ragology]

Unleash's potency got nerfed, didn't it?

[Junyroku]

Yeap and if im not wrong they add 5% more enemit, but in mi experience im not seeing that extra

[Phafi]

potencies scale off of STR alone now, VIT does nothing for you holding hate. put on i270 STR accessories

[EusisLandale]

1. Stick to Abyssal Drain over Unleash unless your MP is low.
2. Red Mages in particular seem to have an unhealthy obsession with trying to pull off the tank. Give them what they want: Shirk them until they learn to properly use Diversion and Lucid Dreaming.
3. Related, but a lot of tanks are still of the mindset where they can sit out of tank stance all day. Don't do it. Not without a team you can trust to know how to handle their enmity.
4. Tenacity is kinda crap right now, seems to have the same scaling as Parry. It's not as bad as Parry, given that it's not RNG and is doing two things, but it's still crap. Direct Hit melds are your friend right now.

[Claire_Pendragon]

1. Stick to Abyssal Drain over Unleash unless your MP is low.
2. Red Mages in particular seem to have an unhealthy obsession with trying to pull off the tank. Give them what they want: Shirk them until they learn to properly use Diversion and Lucid Dreaming.
3. Related, but a lot of tanks are still of the mindset where they can sit out of tank stance all day. Don't do it. Not without a team you can trust to know how to handle their enmity.
4. Tenacity is kinda crap right now, seems to have the same scaling as Parry. It's not as bad as Parry, given that it's not RNG and is doing two things, but it's still crap. Direct Hit melds are your friend right now.

I was going to say the same about unleash, as its now 50% less enmity, and with less STR, less enmity as well.

But the comment about shirk was really off.
Diversion is only up every 3rd fight. The other 2 are left with lucid dream, which if i pull hate pretty much on the 1st -3rd GCD, then popping it that soon is a waste, as the next GCD ill be back at the top, i try to pop it a few more GCDs in. (and even then, its usually only up every other fight, so thats pretty much 33% of the time I dont have anything to lower threat. And my AoE spam is 2 buttons pretty much. Not much else can be done. I keep hearing tanks complain about Skatter threat, but usually its those who only AoE 2-4 times, mainly to try and conserve on resources. (Which only WAR really has issues before steel cyclone.)

[EusisLandale]

But the comment about shirk was really off.

It's less about Red Mages who actually use their tools. It's not even about Scatter either. All of that is within reason. You find a Red Mage doing all that, maybe one thing will drift away from you on the rare occasion.
It's about the ones who go out of their way to pick a single thing out of a big pack and just blow it up until it comes to eat their face. But if you adjust yourself to deal with it suddenly they find themselves a new target, so you're stuck trying to keep at your aoe enmity generation while figuring out which one's bailing on the pack next. The ones that do this, they also seem to be the ones never using their enmity tools either.

[Rongway]

2. Red Mages in particular seem to have an unhealthy obsession with trying to pull off the tank. Give them what they want: Shirk them until they learn to properly use Diversion and Lucid Dreaming.

RDMs just generate an absurd amount of hate even with Diversion. This won't fix anything.

[Phoenicia]

2. Red Mages in particular seem to have an unhealthy obsession with trying to pull off the tank. Give them what they want: Shirk them until they learn to properly use Diversion and Lucid Dreaming.

I do JUST that. As a tank.... I switch my role actions around to have Shirk just to kill off RDMs lol

But when I'm a RDM, I learned the hard way to chill and wait for the tank to grab stuff AND build enmity. I also have both Diversion and Lucid Dreaming picked up.

~Phoenicia~

[VerinInvictus]

Haven't played with Warrior yet. But DRK has some issues holding hate and Paladin is a complete heart attack and a half. I go and pull and already have enemies being ripped off me if the DPS are on the ball. Before SB when they scaled STR with VIT it was easier. Now they made this change and we're back (Not as bad as way back) fighting to keep hate unless it's a boss and we can focus on it.