Thread: I'm not the only one that thinks DRKs are boring now, am I

I don't care too much about maxing DPS as a tank as that's not my job so I'm not worried about the damage drop most of the tank classes took, but in my opinion DRK went from the most entertaining tank class to play to the most obnoxiously boring one.

When Main tanking I find myself spending most of my time cycling my enmity generation rotation to keep enmity away from the Red Mages and since I don't generate Blood Gauge with that rotation I don't get to play with any of the new SB abilities except when my Blood Price and Salted Earth generation finally produce 50 BG and allow me to use a SINGLE ability.

But even then this single ability isn't an OCD it's a GCD which interferes with my normal rotation which isn't a major thing but it certainly removes some of the entertainment that comes from timing OCDs between your GCDs to maximize your rotation.

tl'dr: I think DRKs are boring to play now vs PALs which are probably now the most entertaining. Am I the only one thinking that?

Is Grit on? If yes, use AD 4 to 6 times and switch to SS combo. DA When appropriate

If no, turn on Grit.

I hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Klongol

Is Grit on? If yes, use AD 4 to 6 times and switch to SS combo. DA When appropriate

If no, turn on Grit.

I hope this helps.

well completely ignore this guys comment. this is how you let your healers out dps you. which is embarrassing. and will account for a lack of fun had.
if you pull you should be doing 1 power slash and then drop grit. from then on out think of grit as another cd, a bad one that you dont want to use. only hop back into grit if you screw up either your cd rotation or you catch a vuln up or something similar and you need the extra mitigation. just sitting in it however is lazy and boring and doing so is a hindrance to the raid. as far as fun goes i personally find it to be pretty fun but at the same time it is braindead easy and extremely easy to do good dps on since its so forgiving now that you cant lose darkside. still though, i find it entertaining.

Keep Grit on for larger pulls. It's a DPS loss for the precise reason you said. You can dip out of it once some of the mobs die to weave in Blood Weapon. If the RDM isn't using their aggro dump, let him have the mob(s). Frankly, I find that the best teacher for DPS not using their abilities.

Something else you can do for better aggro generation is equip some 270 STR accessories. The added Attack Power does wonders for your aggro. I would start with the Alex ring and Augmented Shire earrings just to see how you feel. If it's going well and the less HP isn't a hindrance, experiment with more.

I'm not terribly concerned about my ability to maintain aggro while stance dancing, that part I've got fairly well figured out even though I can't do it as often as I would like. My problem is with how repetitive and boring DRK play has become. There's no "skill" required to play them anymore. MP management is jokingly easy, there aren't any DOTs or Debuffs to try and keep up all the time on the enemy, and the new skills are mostly GCDs meaning there's no OCD and GCD weaving that needs to be done.

Playing DRK is easy, having fun with DRK not so much.

Originally Posted by UnitedWeSTand

MP management is jokingly easy,.

It was always easy. The difference is that you're punished for it more now. If you screwed up before you lost Darkside and had your natural regen and Blood Price filling you back up in an instant. Screw up now, Darkside is still there and Blood Price is returning crap for MP, you're stuck needing to get off some Syphon Strikes or wasting Carve and Spit to get back up to decent MP levels.

there aren't any DOTs or Debuffs to try and keep up all the time on the enemy

And good riddance. A lot of Jobs got trimmed back in that regard because there were so many that in large enough groups the game just could not show them all. Even if you set things to only show yours, once the target hit a certain number it wouldn't display them for anyone under any circumstance. Good luck tracking your stuff if you got there half a second to late to be in the visible category.

the new skills are mostly GCDs meaning there's no OCD and GCD weaving

Delirium and The Blackest Night are oGCD. Quietus and Bloodspiller are GCD. That's 50/50 not mostly. This also matches up with the loss of Reprisal and Low Blow as far as weaving goes. You'd have made a better argument bringing up Dark Passenger for this sort of complaint, but even so it still exists and still has some niche uses. Due to Syphon Strike being able to be subjected to Dark Arts means that needs to be woven in more frequently as well. If you're finding that there's no weaving to be done, that's on you not the Job.

Tell your red mages to take their emnity reducing skills. They have two for a reason.

If you pop Dualcast+Swiftcast+Acceleration 10s before fight you better also use Diversion with your Veraeoro+Fleche+Contre-Six->Verthunder for those 1320 potency in 2 GCDs.

Nope you are not. If you browsing through my recent Posts you will see that I exactly feel the same. As casual Player I don't care about DPS. I havent even entered a raid dungeon since a year. But with Stormblood I dropped DRK because the class feels utterly boring to me now. They really broke the class.

Originally Posted by Talec

I have dropped DRK with this Expansion and not gonna take it up again. The playstyle of DRK has been ridiculously destroyed. (...) And unlike the DRK, Paladin still looks somewhat fun with cool new animations and a broad range of actions.

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But exactly that's the reason. I'm a casual Player who didn't enter any raid Content since a year. I don't care about the DMG I did or do now as a DRK. I'm not one of those People salty because DRK has 100 less DPS than the rest of them.

I simply stopped playing DRK because he is no more fun. From Mana Management and Dark Dance-Playstyle to a boring mitigation Tank who just spams Dark Arts. DRK is boring. This class surely go a hard nerf and it doesn't matter if SE will buff their DPS for a thousand, I'm not gonna play it again until I get back more skills, more ways to tank and more possibilitys to evade DMG. And this won't happen before 5.0. So R.I.P. DRK.

It's not just you. It's hard to pinpoint exactly why it feels so dumb to play now, but I'd probably attribute to the lack of DoT/Debuffs to keep track of, and the fact that 2/3 Black Blood abilities are just damage weaponskills that we press every 20 seconds when they light up. I mean, they don't even offer any utility other than "big numbers".