Job potions and newbies - let's not double standard ^^

[ADVSS]

Your conjecture is false where MMOs are concerned.

World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor (level 90 boost), Legion (level 100 boost).
Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns (level 80 boost)
Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Fallen (level 60 boost)

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$tormblood

[NocturniaUzuki]

Not everyone wants to play through four years of content before reaching the "good stuff" in the next expansion.

This quote compels me to point something out:

Expansions actually remove more content than they introduce. Upon the release of a new expansion, only the expansion's small amount of end-game content is played, and everything else is ignored. This is largely the fault of the playerbase, of course. Human beings are hopelessly dazzled by new things, and for some reason seem to think that their new $100 brand-name dress is somehow better than a dress of the same material quality that they bought for $5 at a second-hand store. Point being, the idea that only the new content is the "good stuff" is flawed. Unlike most games, Final Fantasy XIV actually does a half-decent job of encouraging players to interact with older content. However, even so, nobody touches old content with the exception of the odd unsynced run of something for WT.

The unfortunate side effect of this is that, not only does 95% of the game become dead content, but the developers start to ignore quality assurance on older content, due to the fact that seemingly nobody actually cares about it. For example, have you tried tanking at a low level post-Stormblood? It's exceptionally boring. Some classes have also lost all of their interesting playstyles at lower levels. DRK is an example of this. Clearly, SQEX designed the new DRK around how well it functions at Lv70, but forgot that it has to function equally well at 50 and 60, at the very least.

Combined, these two problems can't be good for giving new players a strong impression. Queues for old content are now worse than ever, even with roulettes helping to fill slots. And trying to find a party to play anything that is outside of roulettes, synced, has always been next to impossible. For example, if I try to host a Synced party for SophiaEX now, I get plenty of people who join... and then immediately leave the moment that they realize it's not unsynced (because this problem has become so widespread that, even if you explicitly set your PF settings to not be undersized and write the word SYNCED fifteen times on the party description, people still think it's an unsynced WT party).

Many or even most of you probably don't even care. You probably only play at Lv70. But that's exactly my point. Why is that? Why do you only play a sliver of the game's content, then complain about how players have to grind through all this "worthless old content" to reach end-game. It's not worthless content. It's just as good as the new content. Only, you've forgotten that, since you only faceroll it at Lv70 to quickly grind pixel mounts. What happened to fun for fun's sake, not material value? Heck, one thing I love about this game is how it takes no effort to actually attain end-game gear. Most games force you to grind for months to get maxed gear. In FFXIV, you can do it in mere days. Likewise, gil has virtually no use outside of glamours. These two things should, theoretically, free people up to just do what they feel like and have fun. And yet everyone is still so hopelessly obsessed with sparkly new things that they grind the same two new Extreme trials over... and over... and over... and over again.

[Kinkoz]

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But the dev team adds incentives to replay all the old content on a regular basis, what with the 50/60, Leveling, and Trial roulettes giving bonus verity, as well as the relic/Anima weapon questlines requiring you to revisit multiple cases of older content to progress through your weapon's upgrade path, which will probably be the case yet again if there is a new relic weapon questline introduced to the 4.x series. Give it some time. Just because people are focusing on the brand new content now doesn't mean they won't be given a reason later on to replay the older stuff.

[NocturniaUzuki]

But the dev team adds incentives to replay all the old content on a regular basis, what with the 50/60, Leveling, and Trial roulettes giving bonus verity, as well as the relic/Anima weapon questlines requiring you to revisit multiple cases of older content to progress through your weapon's upgrade path, which will probably be the case yet again if there is a new relic weapon questline introduced to the 4.x series. Give it some time. Just because people are focusing on the brand new content now doesn't mean they won't be given a reason later on to replay the older stuff.

I know that some of it is just due to Stormblood. But even so, these issues existed before Stormblood as well, when everyone was 'sick' of running the same old end-game Heavensward content. It was still virtually impossible to find parties for quite a lot of old content, although it was at least possible to find some of them, like ARR Extreme Primals would actually pop relatively often on Duty Finder, especially as a Tank/Healer. Other stuff though, say, Binding Coil of Bahamut, rarely popped synced. And finding a party for anything more eccentric, like minIL runs or no-echo, was far harder, though still easier than it is now.

[Inuk9]

Stormboost

[MomoOG]

People who want to be good will look at a video or two on rotation guides and practice a little on the dummy to figure things out. Doesn't matter if they level to 70 or use a jump potion. People who are bad will be bad either way cause they just don't care.

[Seryne]

They could, you know, read a guide for the job they're boosting maybe? Maybe even read their tooltips? It isn't that hard.

Having been stuck in groups with tanks and healers who boosted and have zero clue on what they're doing has been terrible. I'm more forgiving when it's something like Sastasha. But when it's something that's 60+ it's absolutely awful and inconsiderate to the group.

[HyperSMB]

They could, you know, read a guide for the job they're boosting maybe? Maybe even read their tooltips? It isn't that hard.

Having been stuck in groups with tanks and healers who boosted and have zero clue on what they're doing has been terrible. I'm more forgiving when it's something like Sastasha. But when it's something that's 60+ it's absolutely awful and inconsiderate to the group.

Quoted for truth!

[Vespar]

This is going to be a seething loathing response so apologies if it offends.
If I see a level 60 player perfroming like a total noob, I'm going to leave them to their stupidity. I dont see how it should fall to the playerbase to have to train people who otherwise didnt care enough as is to level the right way the first time. If they are your friends and only level jumped to play with you, then teach them yourself.
In the past, I have tried to help other players learn how to play effectively by giving polite and non-confrontational advice and, honestly, Ive given up on it. The majority of the time it ends with some such version of "you dont pay my sub" or "I play how I want". I gave up trying. It is easier to just leave them fail for themselves while I move on and actually ENJOY my time.
That being said, I have never kicked someone from a group for being a terrible player. When it happens I've just dropped from the group and taken the 30min penalty myself. Id rather not deal with it and I can do other things in that 30mins than deal with someone else's BS.
SE just exacerbated that issue with their ridiculous potions. I have never agreed with lvl jump potions and I feel like they should be far more restricted than they are. I have played multiple characters and its not that hard or time consuming to get to max level in a reasonable amount of time. But my voice doesnt matter now and whats done is done, but I will have as little dealings as possible with the now rampant NooB horde.

[akaneakki]

Actually saw this tank doing his potion for level and stories and he outperformed a 2 year plus old player. It's actually funny how that guy actually did better than a average lol.