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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    That's what I have been saying in multiple threads created by non tanks trying to solve the issue.

    I love play tanks, but I can not level other jobs while playing Tanks. give me a way to play tank while leveling other jobs and I will always play tanks. AKA.. exp potion / exp scroll additional reward like Tomestone for Max lvl tanks would be nice too.
    Yeah the suggestion I posted earlier is a slight tweak to things i'd said all the way back in beta when all the duty finder talk started about how dps queues would be so long...

    It really is the simplest and most effective way to solve the issue because like I stated earlier it would have a two fold positive effect on dps queue times. so long as those scrolls yielded a decent amount of EXP. i.e 10% of a level

    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    What I'd almost suggest at this point is SE release a new healer and tank class and make sure it can NOT be leveled from PotD. Otherwise it will do nothing to solve content queues..
    Adding new tanks and healers won't do anything. Heavensward proved that.
    Even Yoshi Said there was the same number of people playing tanks in heavensward with 3 tank jobs as there was in ARR with 2 tank jobs.

    Adding Drk didn't increase the number of tanks playing the game at all. all it did was pull players from the warrior and paladin pools. the overall population of tanks was largely unchanged..

    so adding more tank jobs won't change anything..

    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    A solution would be to reward those that play non DPS classes, while not punishing the DPS players.
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    2. Tanks and Healers can earn more Tomestones every week then the DPS players.
    Its a WIN/WIN.

    These options will reward the Tank and Healer, while not punishing the DPS. .
    This actually punishes DPS quite badly. it means that they will always be behind on progression.

    if you allow tanks and healers to get say 600 tomestones a week. while dps can only get 450. then tanks and healers are going to gear up that much quicker in 9 weeks as opposed to 12 for example. if those tanks used there tomes from roulettes on dps gear for there raids they'd have a pretty big advantage over dps players that played only dps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    This actually punishes DPS quite badly. it means that they will always be behind on progression.

    if you allow tanks and healers to get say 600 tomestones a week. while dps can only get 450. then tanks and healers are going to gear up that much quicker in 9 weeks as opposed to 12 for example. if those tanks used there tomes from roulettes on dps gear for there raids they'd have a pretty big advantage over dps players that played only dps
    Exactly. There needs to be something that drastic to have any hope of balancing these roles. Advantage is fair if you're willing to do something that most others aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Advantage is fair if you're willing to do something that most others aren't.
    I really want to steal this for my signature. It is SO ungodly true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperSMB View Post
    I really want to steal this for my signature. It is SO ungodly true!
    Go for it buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    This actually punishes DPS quite badly. it means that they will always be behind on progression.

    if you allow tanks and healers to get say 600 tomestones a week. while dps can only get 450. then tanks and healers are going to gear up that much quicker in 9 weeks as opposed to 12 for example. if those tanks used there tomes from roulettes on dps gear for there raids they'd have a pretty big advantage over dps players that played only dps
    To be fair, tanks need to upgrade their gear quite often because it matters a lot. That being said if they spend it on DPS then yeah they'd be ahead in progression on DPS characters.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...nimum/de7hr09/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    This actually punishes DPS quite badly. it means that they will always be behind on progression.

    if you allow tanks and healers to get say 600 tomestones a week. while dps can only get 450. then tanks and healers are going to gear up that much quicker in 9 weeks as opposed to 12 for example. if those tanks used there tomes from roulettes on dps gear for there raids they'd have a pretty big advantage over dps players that played only dps
    Make items of the same slot that you already own the items for in a different role cost less.

    X slot of slaying, maiming, casting and aiming become Y% cheaper if you own X slot of Healing or Fending.
    Eg: If you own Veritial Bracers of Fending, Veritial Bracers of Aiming are now sold by the vendor for 20% less tomestones.

    End result: You must buy the tank gear to gain benefit, but by buying the tank gear first you can gear up your DPS job significantly faster as your second job.
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