Incentives to NOT queue as DPS

[MoroMurasaki]

I just played BRD (first time playing any DPS since leveling THM for Swiftcast way back when) and dear god it was fun. I understand why people play DPS now, the lack of almost any reslonsibility is really pleasant. That being said I've not changed my main because I like healing as well and it provides a service to the community.

The thing that seplayers FFXIV from other video games is the idea that it is an mmo. I'm not saying tranking and healing should be compulsory but I think anything to encourage players to help out other players should be icing on the cake that is helping people (and instaqueue).

Why not level a PLD and give it a shot? You might enjoy it and find your new main! The problem is that while its easy to go from tanking or healing to DPS because DPS was already part of your role switching from DPS to another role must be that much more intimidating.

If only we had a part of the playerbase dedicated to helping others learn, maybe we could even mark them with some sort of identifying logo near their name...

[Paladinleeds]

Except that being a DPS only main is perfectly fine if the content didn't require tanks, healers and DPS in a ratio that doesn't match the preference ratio of the community. Shafting people over this design failure is asinine and supporting such is rotten.

From what I've seen, single player Final Fantasy games always had that 1T/1H/2D setup, and thus it is a carryover from that here and the devs consider it core to what makes FF, FF, and thus won't change it. I agree, DPS queue times are an issue but I don't think the devs are willing to budge on this.

If only we had a part of the playerbase dedicated to helping others learn, maybe we could even mark them with some sort of identifying logo near their name...

Anyone on the Chaos datacentre needing this, I'm happy to help. I'll also provide a supportive and encouraging approach (as mentors should) and support you in picking up the role. More people giving the tank/healer role a go and getting comfortable with it can only be a good thing even if it increases mine own queue times as a tank/healer.

[AphraelAmarantha]

Why not level a PLD and give it a shot? You might enjoy it and find your new main! The problem is that while its easy to go from tanking or healing to DPS because DPS was already part of your role switching from DPS to another role must be that much more intimidating.

I've played those roles in other mmos before, the gameplay is not really that much different in this game tbh. I don't like tanking or healing and to boot I suck at it. I am not going to burden a group with my measly skills and inability to tank or heal efficiently when I could DPS with far better results. Sorry. Incentives will not get me or other players that have similar feelings to play anything other than DPS. I'm not trying to be annoying about this but you have to consider the other side of it too.

[YitharV2]

I've played those roles in other mmos before, the gameplay is not really that much different in this game tbh. I don't like tanking or healing and to boot I suck at it. I am not going to burden a group with my measly skills and inability to tank or heal efficiently when I could DPS with far better results. Sorry. Incentives will not get me or other players that have similar feelings to play anything other than DPS. I'm not trying to be annoying about this but you have to consider the other side of it too.

It's kind of interesting you say that, because tanking is mechanically easier than DPSing.

The only real solution is to make tanking and healing classes more fun somehow.

Yeah. I'm sure everyone's tired of me saying this, but I really miss tanking from TERA. It was fun. One of the negatives of tanking is dealing with people and backseat tanks. But because it was fun I still played it. In fact, I queued up every single day in TERA despite that because it was fun. No matter how many incentives you throw at people, if the role is boring, you aren't going to get as many people playing it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeraOnline/...n_for_tanking/

>Because I actually feel fully engaged in fights.

Learning the dance takes quite a bit of work, and even when you've done it 100+ times it's still a challenge to take 0 damage, and it's even more of a challenge when you optimize DPS, because taking 0 damage and maximizing DPS are at ends with each other (because you'd take any damage that didn't kill you for maximum DPS).

[AphraelAmarantha]

It's kind of interesting you say that, because tanking is mechanically easier than DPSing.

Perhaps. But does the gameplay click? For me it doesn't and my skill and other people in the group suffer for it. I would rather not have that burden on other people. Plus I'm averse to toxicity, I know people get mad when a tank or a healer doesn't do their job efficiently and well. I have no wish to deal with that either.