Incentives to NOT queue as DPS

[KisaiTenshi]

Recently suggested this in a similar thread. Scrap the adventure in need EXP bonus entirely. instead make it a useable scroll type item that players can use on any job they so choose

If you had a scroll (ffxi players might remember things like miramettes memoirs) then you could run the roulette as a tank or whatever job job in need get a scroll and use it for an exp boost on any job you wanted.

That would be pointless, because then just like PotD, people would just spam whatever gets them the EXP the fastest, regardless if they have the skill.

What is happening is that people simply do-not-want to play tank or healer because they aren't DPS, and they don't like being shoe-horned into a role that doesn't let them kill things quickly. PotD is outright mockery of the gameplay, because now you see people with straight 60's or 70's, and all they did was spam PotD, not play the dungeon content, and the reason they didn't play the dungeon content? Queues, and people being a toxic to each other about how to play the game. People aren't cooperating in PotD they are just running into rooms and letting mobs spawn all around them and if everyone dies, reset progress and start over, at most 15 minutes are lost. Faster than losing 30 from getting a bad team in dungeon content.

What does that say? That says that PotD is bad. It may be fun to do a few times, but it's an absolutely slog to use as a way to grind exp or tomes. SE made a mistake in having this content hand out rewards like candy. It should never have handed out experience. Likewise PvP should never have handed out experience. Now that both hand out more experience than doing the actual content, THAT is why there are queues. It may provide an alternate for DPS to level while there are queues, but what is the point if people don't learn the game mechanics?

What I'd almost suggest at this point is SE release a new healer and tank class and make sure it can NOT be leveled from PotD. Otherwise it will do nothing to solve content queues.

As for what, the answer for tanking is staring us in the face, create a Magitek "tank" job in the same idea that we have with the Magitek mount, only a bit more like D.Va in Overwatch where the player switches between gun-blade (DPS mode) and Tank mode (tank armor mode.) The plot line for this could even be as simple as Cid's Ironworks team creating a Magitek Knight (Tank) job, and the job storyline would involve some solo-instances into Garlean buildings to get the blueprints for thigns.

For Healer, let's look at a non-magic based healer for completeness. We have a one tank that uses MP, we can have one healer that doesn't use MP.

[Paladinleeds]

For Healer, let's look at a non-magic based healer for completeness. We have a one tank that uses MP, we can have one healer that doesn't use MP.

I wonder if Dancer would be perfect for that. A Dancer healer would be perfect IMO.

[Furiea]

I wonder if Dancer would be perfect for that. A Dancer healer would be perfect IMO.

Dancer healer will get the PT killed. why? because everyone will be looking at the dancer dancing and you you know what ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[HyperSMB]

Healer main.

In short DPS ques are not my problem. Nothing SE can do will fix it outside of making healers actual DPS because hordes of players can't imagine doing anything but damage.

I have respect for good DPS, but it is a human nature problem, not an SE problem.

[EorzeaHero69]

TBH, que times haven't been too bad for me when I DF as Samurai. Since the simultanious logout thing, they've been popping up at least 10-13 minutes after I quefor me. Before that it was around 20-30 minutes.

[YitharV2]

I'm incline to agree with you I just didn't want pitch forks that ppl have on here when you tell them to focus on their actual role lol

The entire reason people would have pitchforks is because tanking and healing is very bland in this game if you take away the ability to DPS.

I mean, maybe sitting in tank stance and spamming 1 button on trash is fun for you, but it isn't very fun for me.

[Aeeninwen_Taldel]

The issue with DPS vrs Healer/Tanks is that people do not want to play healer/tanks as they get made good targets for harassment if things go astray. From reading what people have said in the forums about tanking/healing, they are afraid of the lash back they might get if they mess up. But honestly, I've only had two people lash at me for minor mistakes, all my major mistakes that cause wipes have led to people giving me really useful tips. Tanks already have mounts you can get from queuing up as tanks for dungeons, so there are some already in place. It's just the lack of interest from either people who do not like the play-style, or those who are afraid of actually trying because they don't want the heat of possible harassment. Even if it's very rare to happen. At least, from my experience.

[Averax]

This idea reads as "I'm a tank/healer main and i want those faster queue times when i level dps alts"

[Fyrebrand]

I have a couple of ideas, just off the top of my head:

* Instead of a 1:1 ratio, where you run as tank/healer once and then get instant DPS queue... how about a 5:1 or 4:1? As in, you queue in Roulette 4 or 5 times as tank or healer, and then you can queue to that same roulette as DPS and get a priority spot?

* Award a daily bonus Commendation, either once per Roulette to the "Adventurer in Need," or once per day to Tank/Healer. In tandem, I would also like the Commendation system revamped. The current rewards for attaining certain milestones of total lifetime Comms are fine, but they could also be a spendable currency to put towards items, gear, convenience bonuses, etc.
Imagine if you could buy an item that gives you a chunk of XP, with Commendation currency. People could easily run an extra dungeon on their Tank or Healer, buy the consumable, and put it toward their DPS alt. This adds more Tanks/Heals into the system, while reducing their need to queue as DPS in dungeons.

[LunarEmerald]

Give tanks and healers more tomestones for doing dungeons. Nobody cares about a small gil bonus. If you give people a way to grind faster, you can be sure many will play tank/healer over dps for efficiency