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    Kyt's Avatar
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    Kyt Tundera
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    DPS Composition question for raiding

    So I am a main tank who never played and will probably never play a DPS at a raid level in this game. I just created a Free Company and almost have my static totally completed. As someone who's only ever had to worry about himself in raids, I am now tasked with putting together a composition that benefits each other with practically zero knowledge of the different buffs each dps bring to the table. So I am just simply here to ask if someone can give me a brief rundown of exactly what each dps brings to the table in terms of utility. I am under the impression that sam is just a dps bot with no utility or anything, ninja brings slashing resistance or something? I'm not 100% sure.

    Any help would be appreciated!
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    Doctor Fumbles
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    What type of static are you? Hardcore, midcore, or casual? Only utility really matters with Hardcore raiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    What type of static are you? Hardcore, midcore, or casual? Only utility really matters with Hardcore raiding.
    I mean, if the difference between casual, midcore, or hardcore is how seriously you take raiding and what type of content you want to down, then I would consider my static to be somewhere between midcore and hardcore with an eye on all savage content in this expansion.
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    If you're pushing savage content on release with the expectation of clearing and farming before the next set of content, you're hardcore.

    Midcore will push savage without the expectation of clearing and farming before the next set of content.

    Casual won't push savage at all.
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Onto the question:
    Job guide

    Other than that and disregarding DPS:
    MNK:
    - Blunt resistance down
    - +5% Physical damage raidwide buff for 15 seconds every 90
    - +20% Raid wide healing buff for 15 seconds every 120
    - Stun < 1 on oGCD and 1 unreliable that bypasses Stun Resistances.
    - Silence < Quite unreliable

    DRG:
    - Pierce resistance down
    - +15% Crit Chance raidwide buff for 15 seconds every 180
    - +10% Damage buff on self and 5% onto target party member for 20 seconds every 120
    - Stun

    NIN:
    - Slashing resistance down
    - +10% Vulnerability debuff onto 1 target for 10 seconds every 60
    - Aggro control and support
    - Silence

    SAM:
    - Slashing resistance down

    Melee Role:
    - TP recovery
    - Stun
    - -10% STR and DEX damage debuff on a target

    BRD:
    - +2% Raidwide Crit perma buff
    - +3% Vulnerability up to all enemies on song duration
    - +15% Direct Hit Raid wide buff for 20 seconds every 180
    - Instant esuna once every 45 seconds
    - +15% HP / +10% Physical resistance / +10% Magical resistance
    - +20% Heal buffs onto a target for 15 seconds every 45

    MCH:
    - -10% Damage debuff onto a target for 5 seconds every 90
    - +5% Vulnerability up debuff onto target(s) hit by the turret for 10 (up to 30) seconds every 120 «Correction by Id_Slayer»

    Ranged Role:
    - Raid wide TP recovery
    - Raid wide MP recovery
    - Bind
    - Stun
    - Silence
    - +20% Physical damage reduction buff onto a target for 10 seconds every 150

    BLM:
    - Relatively none (other than maybe be an MP battery)
    - Bind (?) «Credits to Thela»
    - Sleep (?) «Credits to Thela»

    SMN:
    - Backup res
    - Bind (?)
    - +5% Damage dealt/taken and Heal buff onto target party member for 15 seconds every 90 (quite unreliable due to conditions) «Credits to Sigiria for pointing it out»
    - +10% Magical Damage debuff on target for 15 seconds every 60 «Credits to Sunako for pointing it out»
    - Autocounter shield raid wide buff for 50 potency that applies a +2% Vulnerability up debuff on target for 4 (up to 24) seconds. Shield lasts 20 seconds every 60 «Credits to Sunako for pointing it out»
    - Stun

    RDM:
    - Backup res
    - Backup heal
    - Bind (?)
    - +10% Physical damage raid wide buff for 20 seconds every 120, buff drops 2% every 4 seconds of the effect. «Credits to Sunako for pointing it out»

    Magic Role:
    - -10% INT and MND damage debuff on a target
    - 20% MP transfer from own to target party member
    - +20% Magical damage reduction buff onto a target for 10 seconds every 150
    - DoT removal onto target party member once every 90 seconds
    - Heavy (?)

    Thats pretty much it without jumping into specifics =-=a
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    Last edited by Arkenne; 07-02-2017 at 04:08 AM.

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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    SMN:
    - Backup res
    - Bind (?)
    - +5% Damage and Heal buff onto target party member for 15 seconds every 90
    I would say radiant shield and contagion are both better utility for smn than what you listed there. Contagion bring 10% more magical damage on target 15 sec with 60 sec cd and radiant shield reflect 50 potency damage against boss and bring 2% physical vulne 4 seconds for boss every time boss hit against radiant shield that have 1min cd and 20 sec duration so in perfect scenario you can have physical vulne 24 seconds.
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    radiant shield and contagion
    Oh, missed those, I skimmed through the list and don't play SMNer much so my bad :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Id_Slayer View Post
    Also Arkenne Mch Hypercharge is only 5%, it got nerfed.
    Whops? You are right, I pasted a 10 there when I intended a 5 somehow :/
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    Thela Ivora
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    BLM:
    - Absolutely none (other than maybe be an MP battery)
    Technically, Blizzard2 still aoe binds, sleep is a thing also, and so is freeze, but yeah close to none
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    Last edited by Thela; 06-30-2017 at 09:11 PM.

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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    Technically, Blizzard2 still aoe binds, sleep is a thing also, and so is freeze, but yeah close to none
    unfortunely, none of those crownd control spells are effective in raids.

    I hope that changes soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    Technically, Blizzard2 still aoe binds, sleep is a thing also, and so is freeze, but yeah close to none
    I did think of those but... yea... besides, even if the opportunity presented itself, doubtfully any BLM would ever remotely go out of their way to stop their DPS for the raid's sake =-=

    Well I can be just fair and add it... why not?
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