SMN...and SCH broken

[CecMiller]

So what? You just said the same thing generalizing about everyone not having the same opionion as you do.
Also nice padded echo numbers with 70% balance uptime. My epeen on standard-comp pre echo though is bigger than yours, therefore I'm right I guess.

Not sure what you're talking about, because I was talking about Susano not Lakshmi.
And as said, an good RDM suffers a lot more than a good SMN in that fight, depending on stuns and mechanics.

Absolutely bullshit. Where is my 70% balance uptime? I don't have padded numbers. Any thorough check on my parses would show you this. Check the A12S parse with 3k+ dps with no AST if you care that much. And I did generalize these people because half the people who commented on this thready saying summoner is overpowered doesn't even HAVE a level 70 summoner. Just look at the 2 people I quoted. Pre-echo I just re-subbed to the game when people had cleared creator savage and was new to summoner with < 250 ilvl. Good job at having higher parses pre-echo. The whole point is to show that I am a good summoner player. Not much else.

Reread my post and maybe you'd understand what I'm talking about. So what if an RDM gets stunned for 6s where they cant dps. And RDM is still going to be doing higher dps overall. What RDM's are you playing with that you're able to outdps them as SMN on Susano EX?


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Regarding your edits: So what if an RDM can't do much more besides curing and rezzing with their extra MP? Thats more than what a summoner can do as a summoner MUST be spamming Ruin 3 to have high dps and as a result, you will be tragically low mana most of the time except in the first 2 minutes of a fight. An RDM will not go oom while maintaining their 4k+ dps. A summoners dps will tank as they begin to ruin 1 spam instead of Ruin 3 spam. With the extra mana, RDM's can make use of mana shift if a healer so desires. Asking the same of a summoner just means your summoner will be doing even less dps than before.

To reiterate my original point:

RDM offers more utility, does more dps, is far easier to play, has better MP management than summoner and is less clunky. So to say summoner is overpowered is an injustice.

[Nerisu]

It's the reason why I decided to switch to RDM. SMN has good numbers but plays clunky. But hey, at least SMN is more fun in PVP compared to RDM.