Thread: 1.20 Cure Test [Mnd vs Water Elemental Pot vs Healing M. Pot]

Originally Posted by Deli

Hi all,

Sorry for waiting... ^^: :O who am I talking to XD

I'll give you the meat first:

picture of Mind (X) vs Cura cure amount (Y)


google spreadsheet here

In sum:

healing
magic
due to
Mind
from
reading (+) Mind (+) cura avg
0__________0______ 1034.38
2__________7______ 1038.85
2__________8______ 1038.33
4_________14______ 1050.13
4_________17______ 1047.49
7_________27______ 1068.63
9_________34______ 1073.68
10________40______ 1075.26
12________47______ 1084.85
14________54______ 1098.65

Phew such a project
so when adding mind my healing magic reading went up too, so I just show it to everyone.
all these are from naked L50 con's reading... I don't think race is that important I'm a reindeer if you can't tell
note: mind +8 healing+12
cura avg = 1065.61

so adding 54 mind to your gear set you can heal 64hp more on average. that's 6%.
also, for these who want to use critical healing to boost up healing avg, I did 50 jade crook cura test...
All I can say, as Yoshi-P to direction, keep believe it! it will happen if you really believe in it!

So ya... I guess that's it. I'm pretty happy that I cover most stuffs I wanna know.
off to test attack magic / . \

Hi Deli,

Thanks for posting your test results and updating us with your findings. It's appreciated.

It's good to see how much MND is affecting Cures, but in your final test results (above), what about testing how valuable:

* Healing Magic Potency vs. MND vs. Critical Magic Potency is?

It would be good to see the ratio of how potent +1 point of Healing Magic Potency is compared to +1 point of Mind (MND), or over a series of casts, how much extra you get on Critical Cures from Critical Magic Potency, etc.

I think that would be the final helpful piece of information to see what's most important in this category. Thanks!

^^ My understanding is that "Critical Potency +X" simply adds X to your damage/heal when you crit.

Originally Posted by Kiara

It's good to see how much MND is affecting Cures, but in your final test results (above), what about testing how valuable:

* Healing Magic Potency vs. MND vs. Critical Magic Potency is?

It would be good to see the ratio of how potent +1 point of Healing Magic Potency is compared to +1 point of Mind (MND), or over a series of casts, how much extra you get on Critical Cures from Critical Magic Potency, etc.

Hmm, for critical Magic Potency (CMP) healer, unless you use the Critical Magic Rate (CMR) gears, it's hard to get something significant. However, since gloves slot has nothing else for healers (we know mp is sort of useless to con now) maybe you can also consider the CMP materia.

In my test, I also have the all 50 average noted down. In general with +56 CMP (2x tier II materia), you can expect to get 15-30hp more from crits. However, I also have some 0 CMP and I get some +25hp from crits. So, it's really hard to rely on it. However, if you keep believe in it, it might happen. XD

Healing magic potency (HMP) is really a tough one to test. The easiest one for me to access is the Woolen Cowl: mind +8 HMP +12. I tested it the norm average is 1065.61. Increased 31.23 from naked L50 con (no point allotment) That's also why I insist to do a Mind +8 test even I have a mind +7 From HMP+12 you can expect 27 hp more coming from HMP alone. However, if you check the chart, +27 mind already can get the effect of the +8mind and +12HMP. so +19mind can beat 12HMP... Then, ya... but you know I always try to keep my relationship with HMP union. or they will suit me and take my cookies :O

since they all worked out fine, I probably won't go bother HMP part. At most I'll borrow LS's HMP wand and test one more set.

Originally Posted by Deli

Hmm, for critical Magic Potency (CMP) healer, unless you use the Critical Magic Rate (CMR) gears, it's hard to get something significant. However, since gloves slot has nothing else for healers (we know mp is sort of useless to con now) maybe you can also consider the CMP materia.

In my test, I also have the all 50 average noted down. In general with +56 CMP (2x tier II materia), you can expect to get 15-30hp more from crits. However, I also have some 0 CMP and I get some +25hp from crits. So, it's really hard to rely on it. However, if you keep believe in it, it might happen. XD

Healing magic potency (HMP) is really a tough one to test. The easiest one for me to access is the Woolen Cowl: mind +8 HMP +12. I tested it the norm average is 1065.61. Increased 31.23 from naked L50 con (no point allotment) That's also why I insist to do a Mind +8 test even I have a mind +7 From HMP+12 you can expect 27 hp more coming from HMP alone. However, if you check the chart, +27 mind already can get the effect of the +8mind and +12HMP. so +19mind can beat 12HMP... Then, ya... but you know I always try to keep my relationship with HMP union. or they will suit me and take my cookies :O

since they all worked out fine, I probably won't go bother HMP part. At most I'll borrow LS's HMP wand and test one more set.

Hi Deli,

Ah I see.

So based on what you're saying (early tests) it seems Healing Magic Potency is more valuable than Mind, point-for-point, right? (+12 HMP = +19 MND)

But Healing Magic Potency (Materia) can be up to +20 as well, so wouldn't that be better to stock up on vs. MND (on some pieces of gear)?

Yah if you have a chance, borrow your friend's HMP Wand and give it a try. Thanks!

hey deli, can i ask what u use to parse the cures? i have alot of gear to play with and i wanna see when mnd dips down again lol.

holy crap people actually theory crafting in 14 O_o
amused to see people are actually doing it (so used to this stuff being over-analyzed the second a patch hit in FFXI) Though with how much things are still changing...and are likey to change again, sucks that this might all be null and void withing a couple months.

well there is theory crafting and number crunching. i think this is more number crunching.