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  1. #61
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iveriad View Post
    I usually just use Vercure/Verraise if :
    1. One or both Healers are dead.
    2. Both are low on MP and my Mana Shift is down.
    3. Most of the people in the party didn't know mechanics and eats all AoEs, to the point that number one and/or two become a really likely possibility.
    I often notice healers leaving people dead for long periods of time. Even during fights where people easily hit enrage. Maybe we wouldn't have hit enrage if you didn't leave that dps dead for 2 minutes of the fight.

    If I see someone dead for like 20+ secs, I'll stop what I'm doing to raise them even if both healers are alive.
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  2. #62
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    Ordoric's Avatar
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    Ordoric Ambrosuis
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I cant belive people are angry about the use of raid. Hey red mage has always been a do it all kinda job as a gap filler deal
    (2)

  3. #63
    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Did someone already reply....

    "You don't pay my sub." To OP yet? :^)
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  4. #64
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Good thing your main class is "Summoner" then -- leave it for the healer to deal with ... or are you an Arcanist Physick? [Inquiring minds ...]
    You're not seriously implying this game is so hard a person can only master one job, are you?
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  5. #65
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Mateus
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    If I see someone dead for like 20+ secs, I'll stop what I'm doing to raise them even if both healers are alive.
    If someone is dead for more than 20secs then my swift cast is down and I don't have the time to cast raise regularly. I appreciate you picking that up with your vastly more frequent swiftcasting ability.
    (4)
    可愛い悪魔

  6. #66
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    Yhual's Avatar
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    Albireo Yhual
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    A lot of ppl missing the main point of this thread lol. I think OP was trying to talk about the rdm who are trying too hard to change their red icon into a green one.

    Vercure is like holding a door open for somebody. It's a nice gesture with good intentions, but if you're holding it open for someone half a parking a lot away, it's just awkward and unnecessary. If you're holding it open for someone behind you with their hands full, you're doing it right.
    (6)

  7. #67
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    JMadFour's Avatar
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    Malthor Azel
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 49
    I haven't gotten Vercure yet, but my plan was to only use it on myself (to make the Healer's job easier when I'm bad), and on the Healer (cause from my healing experience a lot of times I tunnel vision on the other party members health and forget about my own health, so I figured it'd help other healers).

    would I be doing it wrong?
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  8. #68
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    Fortune_Cookie's Avatar
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    Eden Dawn
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JMadFour View Post
    I haven't gotten Vercure yet, but my plan was to only use it on myself (to make the Healer's job easier when I'm bad), and on the Healer (cause from my healing experience a lot of times I tunnel vision on the other party members health and forget about my own health, so I figured it'd help other healers).

    would I be doing it wrong?
    If you care about efficiency, then yes. Vercure is an emergency tool to be used when the healer(s) cannot keep up for whatever reason (e.g. because they're dead). Using it just to help the healer when the healer doesn't absolutely need that help is a waste of everybody's time. If you took some unnecessary damage, try to dodge better next time, but don't compound the issue by wasting dps.

    Wanting to help your party is of course the right instinct, but outside of real emergencies the most effective help you can offer is to make stuff die faster.
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  9. #69
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    GospelVhae's Avatar
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    Freyja Crescent
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Late to the party but while I condone using Vercure in general
    Quote Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare View Post
    Vercure is NOT part of your rotation in the same way that Second Wind or Bloodbath aren't part of a Melee DPS rotation.
    Comparing a GCD (Vercure) against Second Wind and Bloodbath, both oGCDs, is not a fair comparison. Yes I'm guilty of using Second Wind and Bloodbath because I weave those in between GCDs as a DRG when I was progressing A12S on min ilvl, usually on the Prey mechanic
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  10. #70
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    I dared to let the tank fall below 80% while casting malefic one day, and the RDM entered full on panic mode and started spamming vercures on everyone. Not to mention the tank was a paladin, and he was spamming clemency on himself at the same time for whatever reason.

    Told them both to calm tf down.
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