Vercure is not part of your rotation.

[Furious]

I'd far prefer a rdm who uses vercure slightly too much than one who uses it too little. By an order of magnitude.

[gumas]

Vercure and verise for me is definitely depend on the situation.

- everyone got hit by aoe and rdm vercure himself? Fine by me
- healer die and rdm vercure everyone else while verise healer? Nice play rdm
- everyone is fine but everytime someone got hit rdm cast vercure? No
- rdm use vercure because he's far from group? Np, save time for healer to run back to him

The thing is, you never know if rdm will keep vercuring himself, he could just cure himself because at that time he was panic or something else. Then one time he stop vercuring himself because the healer doing good job at healing while the healer though the rdm gonna heal himself anyway, in hectic fight like final boss trial that can cause problem and probably a wasted heal there

[Pori_Dessu]

I only used Vercure as a 70 RDM in 4 situations:
- When healers were dead, and I needed to heal tanks and raise one of the healers. (Emergency)
- When in 4-man content and the healer simply doesn't heal the DPSes (Me and the other) even when they're at 10-15% health, and there's AoEs incoming. Happened to me a few times already, the first time we wiped. (I would call that an emergency as well)
- When doing solo content.
- When Duoing EX primals with my sister. (Pretty much the same reason as soloing for that).

So, unless you're the type of healer that keeps healing the almost full health tank instead of healing the low health DPSes, Vercure is not part of my rotation.

[Fortune_Cookie]

I have to say I'm surprised at the responses thus far.

I'm new to these shores and find threads like this a little unsettling.

I assume most responses are picking up the humorous tone of the OP and are responding in kind?

[Alistaire]

I had something similar to this today.....a RDM kept using Erase on the bomb at....ahhhhh Gods, forgot the dungeon.....the museum one in Azys....one of the hard modes in 3.0.

I just rescued him while casting LB. Someone wasn't happy. And I got a chuckle.

Erase is ogcd and doesn't lower their dps at all. /facepalm at you, sir.

As for vercure, don't forget the "we're in a phase change, there's no target, and I'd like to set up my doublecast" usage.

[Bardo]

The moral of this thread:
Trying to help people get better is great.
Expecting pug players to play optimally and getting mad when they don't is inane.

[Sylvain]

My experience is that even after failing every single aoe and having a heavy dot while shinryu does his tank buster, they rather pull more DPS even tho they have 5% health remaining.

Then they die and are like "rez?" Which I reply "you're a waste of mana"

[OcieKo]

My experience is that even after failing every single aoe and having a heavy dot while shinryu does his tank buster, they rather pull more DPS even tho they have 5% health remaining.

Then they die and are like "rez?" Which I reply "you're a waste of mana"

<3 just win...

[Kolsykol]

If it helps the group, what's the problem? Using a Vercure as opposed to verWhichever isn't going to just cause catastrophic failure, just make the healer's life a little easier.

It doesn't tho.
Usually....
What usually happens is that the RDM just blatanly has zero trust in the healer and starts interrupting his or her dps rotation to throw out heals just because someone is at 75-50% hp, even if there is no incoming damage.
Do you know what helps even more than useless heals that only ends up being double heals and a waste of mana for both of us?
You continuing dpsing so that whatever dies faster.
I don't think that I have ever come across a RDM that actually genuinly helped with Vercure yet, often I see them cast Vercure and the healer casting a heal AT THE SAME TIME on the same target.
It actually gets rather irritating as a healer too. Have some faith in your healers unless proven otherwise...

[Kolsykol]

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I agree with this, those cases are fine. But like 90% of the cases that I see are RDM's who have no faith whatsoever in their healer for no real reason and freaks out the moment someone goes bellow 75% HP.
It almost comes across as a slap in the face to the healer too, as a massive '' I don't trust you to do your job '' slap.
Vercuring to set up dualcast is fine too, but there are just so many of them running around acting like half healers half dps rather than dps with panic heals.