This expansion looks very unfair for the DPS classes in general.

[Gallus]

Let's just go over some of the DPS classes again...

Melee:

DRG: Complicated as hell, an utter mess of long animation OGCDs, a bunch of priorities, a timer that can fall off, positionals that range from 100-180 and 200-290 if missed (and you'll miss them given the ridiculous amount of times bosses spin this time around). Jumps still locking you. A complete nightmare of a class.
Numbers? On the very bottom.

Meanwhile, you have SAM, which has no timers, positionals barely punish you, barely OGCDs and a pretty noob friendly rotation.
Numbers? Ludicrously high.


Casters

BLM: While not super complex, still extremely punishing and immobile due to permahardcasts and AF and UI timers. Has no utility.
Numbers? Lower than they should be.

SMN: Complex and punishing as hell. Missing an aetherflow this time around is twice as punishing as it was before, there's a lot of thought into when DWTs are used and/or if it's a good idea to delay Bahamut and a long etc. Class is hard as hell to optimize. Has some utility.
Numbers? Slightly lower than the other 2 casters.

RDM: No timers, barely punishes you for pressing the wrong button, mobile as hell (50% of its casts are instant), noob friendly rotation, has utility.
Numbers? At the top.

Ranged Supp

Haven't played these two classes but from what I've heard:

MCH: Hard as hell, barely any utility, ridiculosly low DPS.

BRD: Relatively easy, has a lot of utility, very high DPS.


Why are easier classes blatantly overshadowing the most complex ones? Shouldn't it be the opposite? High risk high reward no?

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Your definition of punishing greatly differs from mine.

[Gallus]

Your definition of punishing greatly differs from mine.

So you are telling me SAM and RDM are more punishing than DRG and BLM/SMN?

[Aerolithe_Lion]

So you are telling me SAM and RDM are more punishing than DRG and BLM/SMN?

No, I don't think I've ever felt punished when playing a video game.

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

None of the classes are difficult or complex. They're all relatively simple to play.
Some ARE easier than others, but only down to how many buttons you have to press.
The mechanics are all fairly simple.

[Neela]

None of the classes are difficult or complex. They're all relatively simple to play.
Some ARE easier than others, but only down to how many buttons you have to press.
The mechanics are all fairly simple.

You are kidding hm? : /

[Sparhwk]

None of the classes are difficult or complex. They're all relatively simple to play.
Some ARE easier than others, but only down to how many buttons you have to press.
The mechanics are all fairly simple.

A look at your lodestone shows you have SAM at 70 and most of the melee at 50. No reason to trust such a stupid statement from someone who hasn't even played the other classes at end game yet. Of course the easy class is going to make you think other classes are just as easy.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

A look at your lodestone shows you have SAM at 70 and most of the melee at 50. No reason to trust such a stupid statement from someone who hasn't even played the other classes at end game yet. Of course the easy class is going to make you think other classes are just as easy.

You don't even have SAM unlocked, how can you say its "the easy class" lol. None of the melee jobs were hard at 60, and they only made them easier.

[Sparhwk]

You don't even have SAM unlocked, how can you say its "the easy class" lol. None of the melee jobs were hard at 60, and they only made them easier.

I know my class, and i know it's difficult. I know that it's also the bottom of the meters despite how much effort the rotation is. Look at my gear and you can see I've done both primals to obtain everything. Pretty sure I can say SAM is easy when the one in my static is above me by 500+ dps and doesn't need to move for half his positionals ever.

But you're a SAM. Of course you're gonna get uppity when called out.

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

A look at your lodestone shows you have SAM at 70 and most of the melee at 50. No reason to trust such a stupid statement from someone who hasn't even played the other classes at end game yet. Of course the easy class is going to make you think other classes are just as easy.

I was going to write a decent reply to you, but then I saw you only have a PLD at 60, a DRG at 70 and a RDM at 56. I'm going to take a wild jab and say that you think DRG is difficult. If that's truly the case, then I'd like to point out that it's not the class, it's you.

You're saying this with seemingly no high-end experience in this game. Of course, if you are just playing a class to be able to clear a dungeon, they will all be very easy.

Raided first coil, Raided second coil, didn't raid third coil. Was top DPS in both without a sweat.

Started raiding in HW, played a MCH and a SMN. Top DPS on both, again easy as shit. Stopped playing due to time restraints.
I'm gonna raid this expac though, and I'll probably raid as a BRD/MCH or something since I haven't been enjoying SAM tbh. And I will most likely top DPS charts again.
The classes are not hard to play, they take a day or two of getting used to and then all you need is experience of the fights.

Problem about this game, as I said in the quote above. The majority of people who play this game are bad. And this game is built around making it easier for them.