Reason tank DPS stat was changed to STR

[ShariusTC]

They could just split the VIT into VIT/STR at a 50:50 ratio.

For example, the Lakshmi accessories are 120 VIT. The accessories could be 60 STR and 60 VIT.

Just move the scaling to the gear and lock it for tanks.

that will make tank so squishy and they have to careful balance the hell of of future raid so it won't 1 hit a tank while still prove some threat for DPS, or else DPS will just ignore mechanic and let healer heal through it

[Yahallo]

that will make tank so squishy and they have to careful balance the hell of of future raid so it won't 1 hit a tank while still prove some threat for DPS, or else DPS will just ignore mechanic and let healer heal through it

Actually, it won't make tanks that squishy. First, you are losing about 10k from not wearing vit accessories so you may lose say 5-6k HP. You should still remain above the 40k mark if this happened. Second, there are tanks that are ex primals in full str gear; granted it requires the tank to know proper mitigation rotations and be able to mitigate through the tank busters more carefully as to not put too much strain on the healer. So splitting the vit on tank accessories won't necessary make it so that tanks are so squishy that they need to adjust how they develop content; at most it would just make tanks need to know how to use their cooldowns better which isn't really a bad thing.

[Kyt]

Actually, it won't make tanks that squishy. First, you are losing about 10k from not wearing vit accessories so you may lose say 5-6k HP. You should still remain above the 40k mark if this happened. Second, there are tanks that are ex primals in full str gear; granted it requires the tank to know proper mitigation rotations and be able to mitigate through the tank busters more carefully as to not put too much strain on the healer. So splitting the vit on tank accessories won't necessary make it so that tanks are so squishy that they need to adjust how they develop content; at most it would just make tanks need to know how to use their cooldowns better which isn't really a bad thing.

Yeah as a str tank with 1 320 ring on (i dont have the alexander ring) with food buff I sit right at 40k and nothing even comes close to taking half my health in either of the new extremes

[Jandor]

The new weakness penalty imposed by dying is -25%/-50% to STR/DEX/MND/INT. This limits damage dealt and HP healed, while keeping HP and MP values intact (previously was a 30% penalty to both, which made surviving mechanics after raising from a death, exceedingly hard). Since the new changes, tanks' damage is calculated with STR in mind, so that when tanks die, they incur the same damage penalty as DPS jobs do.

I don't think tanks were changed over to STR because of the changes to weakness. I think it was changed because VIT is the only main stat that affects something other than damage, namely your max HP. Scaling tank damage on VIT makes it harder to tweak tank HP/tank DPS independently of each other.

[Reynhart]

There are stats called Attack Power, Magic Attack Power and Healing Power.
Make weakness affect those instead.

After all, back in 3.x, Berserk didn't suddenly increase your HP...

[Misake]

There are stats called Attack Power, Magic Attack Power and Healing Power.
Make weakness affect those instead.

After all, back in 3.x, Berserk didn't suddenly increase your HP...

Why would we do things that make sense in FF14?

[OcieKo]

I'msurprised no one tried just increase the scaling rate of STR to DMG to over 1:1 (for the record this would fix nothing and break more, theyd just use i270 STR accs for pure DPS not enmity).
Still waiting to chime in on if tank enmity is really that bad atm, still working on my first tank, and tbh i can hold off SAM/RDM with barely 2 start up uses of my enmity gen combo. But Im not 70 yet so well see.
Also buffing Tanks because DPS just love sucking at the other 80% or so of their job, doesnt exactly sound great either. Im pretty sure I play the one of the more support heavy SAMs around...

[ShariusTC]

I'msurprised no one tried just increase the scaling rate of STR to DMG to over 1:1 (for the record this would fix nothing and break more, theyd just use i270 STR accs for pure DPS not enmity).
Still waiting to chime in on if tank enmity is really that bad atm, still working on my first tank, and tbh i can hold off SAM/RDM with barely 2 start up uses of my enmity gen combo. But Im not 70 yet so well see.
Also buffing Tanks because DPS just love sucking at the other 80% or so of their job, doesnt exactly sound great either. Im pretty sure I play the one of the more support heavy SAMs around...

but if you buff the scale of STR to damage that will make i270 accs last even longer since it give tank more STR than any tier 6 materia meld VIT accs

[OcieKo]

but if you buff the scale of STR to damage that will make i270 accs last even longer since it give tank more STR than any tier 6 materia meld VIT accs

I believe I mentioned that in the parentheses... I was just shocked no one tried that suggesting something so stupid yet.

[whiskeybravo]

That so lame. Like, if the content was too difficult due to weakness debuff... Stop effin' dying!