Fordola (spoilers)

[Ghastly]

I pray to the twelve that Lyse doesn't forgive her after what she did to Meffrid.
Anyone else agree? I just get a feeling Lyse's too nice and will forgive her.

Not much of a discussion, more of a thought and I had to get a sense if I'm the only one who thinks Lyse will end up forgiving her in the story?

[Lambdafish]

I honestly hope that fordola gets a redemption arc, I thought she written awfully in 4.0. I was expecting complex questions regarding the good of the garlean empire and what we got was a monster blindly following the madman zenos

[Kogekigami]

tbf Meffrid had it coming...she was standing still and the guy missed by miles..TWICE... no offense he sucked baddd.

She does deserve punishment for hurting Alisae... Maybe she will get some redemption... least she could do is spill some garleon secrets if she has them.

[LystAP]

I honestly hope that fordola gets a redemption arc, I thought she written awfully in 4.0. I was expecting complex questions regarding the good of the garlean empire and what we got was a monster blindly following the madman zenos

She's probably Conrad's granddaughter and/or the girl that old Yda saved. Maybe.

[Kai_Lee]

Only villain ended up dying in 4.0 is sends, all other villain survived. Which probably means they have plans for them. Fordola could end up being a npcs for return to ivalice story arc with lyse.

[Gaiussenpai]

Not sure why she should be punished for fighting for the Garleans and its not like what his face got schooled for being bad with the blade. I mean I wouldn't put it past the savages to punish her or the conscripts that were captured for being on the wrong side anyways.

:^)

[Theodric]

Fordola was merciless, yes - but that also applies to the Warrior of Light and his allies frequently as they end and ruin lives based entirely on someone's allegiance with little to no regard to the consequences. Meffrid's life isn't any more important than the life of a Garlean conscript or soldier given that they, too, likely have loved ones who will be heartbroken upon witnessing or hearing of their demise. In any conflict both sides believe what they are doing is righteous and there's rarely a winner. That's the entire point of war. It's messy. It's nuanced.

I mean, heck, there's a Garlean soldier who is killed by Alisae for striking the Warrior of Light when ambushed. We see through the Echo that same soldier happened to be the one who gave Yotsuyu a chance at a decent education and rescued her from a highly abusive family. Clearly he wasn't a bad guy at all and yet he was cut down as easily as Meffrid was.

[Heliantheae]

When do I get a Wind-up Fordola.

[EdwinLi]

Just because Lyse never forgive her does not mean they can't become friends after her atonement.

In a Gaius rule Fordola would have gotten her wish but Zenos, however, exploited that promise to make her into what she is in 4.0.

Heck some people actually become best friends in life despite that these people may have one thing they will never forgive each other for so they just look past that and look to the future instead of the past.

[Quor]

I honestly hope that fordola gets a redemption arc, I thought she written awfully in 4.0. I was expecting complex questions regarding the good of the garlean empire and what we got was a monster blindly following the madman zenos

You gotta take it in the larger context. Her and her Skulls were raised to their positions while Gaius was still the power in Ala Mhigo. Once Gaius was out of the way, Zenos took over. Gaius was all about merit and work, so Fordola, working under the auspices of Gaius, worked her ass off to show that Ala Mhigans weren't just some backwards savage people, but in fact could do just as well as any other imperial citizen. Gaius would have approved, and he probably did (hence Fordola rem Lupis). Then along came Zenos, who cares not for any high-minded ideal. All he wants is to feel something, anything, and he does so enjoy watching lesser beings squirm. So he took Fordola, molded under Baelsar's rather noble ideology of "prove yourself via honest effort" and twisted her until he broke her.

It was all quite well done imo.

I mean, heck, there's a Garlean soldier who is killed by Alisae for striking the Warrior of Light when ambushed. We see through the Echo that same soldier happened to be the one who gave Yotsuyu a chance at a decent education and rescued her from a highly abusive family. Clearly he wasn't a bad guy at all and yet he was cut down as easily as Meffrid was.

I did *not* see it that way. Given Yotsuyu's own admission of spending a good chunk of her life in abusive relationships, up to and including life in a brothel, I don't think the "education" this soldier offered her was of the academic sort. Good for her in the sense that she eventually came to exert power over her own life (in a sadistic, megalomaniacal sort of way), but also bad for her on account of what was probably a long period suffering a variety of abuses. In short, I don't think the soldier in question was all that altruistic when it came to Yotsuyu. Besides, he was in the process of actively trying to kill the WoL. In war it's kill or be killed, and all that matters afterwards is who is still alive.