ARR ending not satisfying anymore

[BigRed5392]

i will never understand why players choose to excuse pretty rude behavior. I don't care if people watch cs, and I'm more then willing to wait. CM and prae are fun and the build up is pretty good. In other mmos, most people put new players first to make them feel welcome. Heck not speed running these nets you some good exp on top of the msq bonus.

Should never excuse rude behavior, nor promote it. Should focus on giving new players a good time as this can make people quit, some players play mmo to join a community. The way people act in these dungeons can turn people off.

My and my gf ran this not long ago and there was a few new people. My gf was the tank, me as my smn. We asked to do it legitimately for the exp, yet no one replied the other tank Dc'ed due to bad connection so my g/f pulled. both healer ran past while some stayed to kill the mobs. Only one person spoke up about a speed run and was trying to enforce it. Me and her died, and was scoffed at.

the new players were not that happy.

Idm speed running it if majority rules, and it is communicated. But just plain forcing it, and making rude comments isn't the way to go about it.

What is wrong with putting new players first? Whats wrong with showing them how fun the community can be, or how welcoming?

At least communicate to new players how the dungeon is run before hand. I've seen this thread pop up, roughly 30+ times since the release of ff14. And all people do is give rude remarks. Or excuse rude remarks. You would think at this point, the Novice network, LS or FC would warn new players before doing these 2 dungeons.


these 2 dungeons are a new players first taste in 8 man content. It can be daunting from their perspective and they don't know what to do and when you have a few players being rude to you, for some unknown reason, it can leave a sour taste in your mouth.

Remember new players do not know you, they do not know you may have ran this 1000 times they may not know how much/long the cs are. Acting like they should, is a bit rude.

Also never assume you are the majority, one argument I think is getting old is the "what about the 7 other players" you can't speak on the behalf "7 other players" just yourself. I've seen runs, with 5 new players and 3 vets. 2 just happen to be the tanks and were enforcing a speed run.

Anyway that is just my 2 gil. Please read in full not just segment this post, and try to comment on each part. I'm not forcing people to do anything, nor do I.

idm speed running it, idm letting new players get a full experience. I just put new players first as they only get their "first time" and I rather it be enjoyable experience to let them have their fun, and get them pumped for a good mmo and a cool community.