Against "Simultaneous Logout Measures"

[Elim]

Ima laugh hard if this is still happening when the new raid is released. It'll be a forced break during planned raid times! Don't have time to pull before auto log out? Too bad. Time for a 20 minute break. But wait...now you're stuck in an hour+ queue to log back on...right after you battled the lobby server error in order to select your character. #byeraidtime.Then there will be those groups that forget about it and get logged out just before a (first) clear. Etc. Mmmmm I can taste the annoyance and utter disappointment in SE already...

[iluvOP]

In any other online service subscribers would have been COMPENSATED by now.

Nonsense. Have you played other popular online only games during expansion launches, during launches in general? Where issues can last for months and its a normal thing? Nobody is going to get "compensated" for a thing they personally could have avoided. They warned people about this a million times. Especially people on balmung that there WILL be "extreme login issues" among some other issues.
This is why they gave people a chance to change servers to something smaller and even went out of their way to reward players who did so.
So you are saying that people should be "compensated" for their own inaction and their own stupidity? Puuuhleeease.

[Alleo]

That's assuming that FFXIV's server architecture has that kind of scalability.

Well if they dont then what will happen in the future? I mean comparing the numbers of FF14 players to WoW its still away from that and yet they have problems. They are doing lots of advertisement and stuff that makes it easier for new players to join, so it seems that they want to have more players. But at the same time the servers cant handle them. What if people enjoy the expansion and most will stay? Will a long waiting time become normal?

If you lose someone because they are done with the content and are bored you might get them back with new exiting content but I am not sure if you will get someone back that went away because they could barely play the game and felt that the Devs dont do enough. That is some kind of negative point that might stick with the person so they might not want to come back at all.

Nonsense. Have you played other popular online only games during expansion launches, during launches in general? Where issues can last for months and its a normal thing? Nobody is going to get "compensated" for a thing they personally could have avoided. They warned people about this a million times. Especially people on balmung that there WILL be "extreme login issues" among some other issues.
This is why they gave people a chance to change servers to something smaller and even went out of their way to reward players who did so.
So you are saying that people should be "compensated" for their own inaction and their own stupidity? Puuuhleeease.

Oh there is a MMO called WoW that did compensate its playerbase after the WoD launch with free playtime. And the same MMO managed to do a nearly perfect launch of Legion. A business that wants to be on the top cant go around and look at those that do it worse or the same and say that they are better than that and so it should be enough. No they should look at those that are better than them and try to get there too. And if you are the best you should try to stay that too since in a competition you can always be kicked from the top by someone else if you stay as you are and believe to not do anything.

Also Omega the new server also had waiting lines of 1000 people or more for some so its not like this is only a Balmung problem.

[Odstarva]

You have nothing but the fellow (selfish) player to blame.

All it takes is one self-centered miqo'te to punish one hundred innocent midlanders.

[Japtor]

I like how everyone is talking as if they know how this measure is going to pan out.

I agree the idea of getting booted out for 10 minutes and possibly queueing up again (even though afkers will be kicked as well and will not log back in right away) is annoying, but we don't even know at what time the boot will happen.

On first glance this seems to be a good temporary solution to go against all the afkers. I imagine the best time for that would be morning times to be honest, while everyone is off to work/school/whatever and barely anyone plays anyways. I hope they'd take time regions into consideration, otherwise this measure wouldn't make sense to me.

Can we please wait and see and then complain about it? I swear, this is the WHM threads all over again.

[Astrus]

The thing I'm mostly worried about is the timing of the forced logout given that we have multiple timezones across the playerbase.

At best this would happen during the morning or early noon so it catches the people who went to work cheating the afk timer.

At worst this is going to happen in the evening just after people made it through the usual queue to be met with another queue after a few moments in the game.

At it's most ineffective it's going to happen in the middle of the night when there's no queues on a lot of the servers to begin with, under those circumstances it wouldn't even change anything about the status quo.

My faith in SE actually monitoring login queues and accounting for server specific timezones (which admittedly is easier for the EU servers than it is for the others) instead of just doing a disconnect across all the servers at some arbitrary time is slim.

[Kuutamo]

Wonder if is possible to code a pop up where you have to type a confirmation that you are not afk. Therefore people who are afk can't type it and they are the only ones logged out

[Freyar]

Wonder if is possible to code a pop up where you have to type a confirmation that you are not afk. Therefore people who are afk can't type it and they are the only ones logged out

I dread the days of captcha anti-afk methods.

[Serret]

Nonsense. (...).

In fact, other SQUARE ENIX online services have compensated their users for even 1 hour longer than predicted maintenances ^^
But puuuhleeease, let's settle for less and accept a bad service as being the new "normal" :3

[Paladinleeds]

In fact, other SQUARE ENIX online services have compensated their users for even 1 hour longer than predicted maintenances ^^
But puuuhleeease, let's settle for less and accept a bad service as being the new "normal" :3

Indeed, as much as I am one to think we don't deserve compensation, it's a cultural thing that if things don't go as expected, and it negatively affects the customer, the Japanese go out of their way to try and put things right. Their culture and way of doing things is frankly fascinating. They are very much honour bound. Kugane for example seems to reflect this well.