Against "Simultaneous Logout Measures"

[HyoMinPark]

This very FORUM has made posts asking Square-Enix to do EXACTLY THIS.... And now everyone seems upset that they actually listened.

What a time to be alive.

I don't recall EVER seeing a SINGLE post on here demanding SE do a mass kick of ENTIRE DATA CENTERS due to a few people circumventing the (temporary) AFK kick timer.

People asked for them to patch the timer so as it would kick those who were AFK crafting/talking to an NPC. Not kick EVERYONE who is actually playing the game.

Can we not just wait and see? My gawd it is like WHM changes all over again. Yes it might be terrible. But it might not be. Judge it when you can truely judge it, in action.

While I can't speak for everyone, I think I can say there are a lot of people that are frustrated with SE already due to all the Duty Finder/Solo Instance crap that went on during Early Access, to the way SE is supposedly handling these ongoing issues (because I keep hearing reports of DF still acting up), how they're supposedly handling this "massive DDoS Attack" they're (again, supposedly) experiencing, and just with some of their decisions in general. So I think a lot of this indignation wouldn't be as bad if we had not already dealt with so much garbage since Stormblood's EA launch.

[Kaelah]

I don't recall EVER seeing a SINGLE post on here demanding SE do a mass kick of ENTIRE DATA CENTERS due to a few people circumventing the (temporary) AFK kick timer.

People asked for them to patch the timer so as it would kick those who were AFK crafting/talking to an NPC. Not kick EVERYONE who is actually playing the game.

Actually I do remember a post where someone suggested exactly this. I do not care to go searching for it though. It's in one of those queue complaints threads.

[Elvin]

Actually I do remember a post where someone suggested exactly this. I do not care to go searching for it though. It's in one of those queue complaints threads.

Yep, there is a post like that.


But it wasn't a massive demand of the forum...

Anyway, it's a solution that is addopted by many private servers, because they don't have the knowledge to create a proper anti-afk setup. Never would have guessed that SE would be on the same boat.

[Ilenya]

Yep, there is a post like that.


But it wasn't a massive demand of the forum...

Anyway, it's a solution that is addopted by many private servers, because they don't have the knowledge to create a proper anti-afk setup. Never would have guessed that SE would be on the same boat.

I imagine the issue is conflicting things. In regards to crafting, I would imagine they might be able to set up a timer where a synth has to finish in a certain amount of time else it ends automatically. Give it lots of leeway for long macro strings, but not so long to be abusable.

SE is the one who put these restrictions into place. SE is the one with such bad servers that the restrictions are needed in the first place. SE is the one who advertised the heck out of this game and was seemingly caught completely unprepared for how many people wanted to play it.

So yes, SE is at fault for players not wanting to stand outside in the rain because they only built the room big enough to hold 300 people. Their solution to that is to kick everybody out for 10 minutes, then let random people back in. Do you have it in you to forsee the possibility that there will most likely be people not able to log in to play the game, even after this ingenious idea?

This is not a guarantee that people can play. It's a bandaid on a leg that needs amputating because it's long-since turned gangrenous.

Allow me to point out I am on Balmung and have dealt with the majority of the queue issues, and yet I'm still not blaming SE for PLAYERS abusing systems. Were there other ways to do this? Possibly, but things like that are unlikely to be doable quickly. A simple system to work with it until it stops being an issue would work fine in the short term, especially if they are looking into other methods for long term (Read: 5.0) issues.

[QuarIm]

This very FORUM has made posts asking Square-Enix to do EXACTLY THIS.... And now everyone seems upset that they actually listened.

What a time to be alive.

Here is a thought, what if posts that suggested this to SE are not the same people posting here? What if this Forum were not a single-minded beast, but consists of individuals.
Hopefully you can now understand how it is possible for posts with contradictions views, to exist within the same forum

[DamianFatale]

This is a terribly backward solution to a problem that could of been fixed by simply adjusting the forced log out measures. Instead, we are probably possibly going to have launch day ques every day for a couple hours, if you're on a high pop server. It's like they hate Balmung. I'm not happy about this decision, but maybe it will make more people move to other servers in frustration.

[Ilenya]

This is a terribly backward solution to a problem that could of been fixed by simply adjusting the forced log out measures. Instead, we are probably possibly going to have launch day ques every day for a couple hours, if you're on a high pop server. It's like they hate Balmung. I'm not happy about this decision, but maybe it will make more people move to other servers in frustration.

Just saying, the people use crafting are taking advantage of a change crafters asked for, since being logged out mid-synth lost all your supplies with no hope of getting them back. They changed it so that it wouldn't log them out as a means to make things better.

Then people took advantage of it.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

Well, they will only make things worse with this new measure. The queues are bad enough as is, but forcibly logging everyone out and shoving literal tens of thousands back into a queue after a ten minute time-frame across an entire bloody data center is not the solution they should look to be implementing. This is just ridiculous, plain and simple and I really do hope it blows up in their faces in the most negative way possible, especially when the queues that exist after the forced boot will be nearly impossible to get through on larger servers because the worlds will max out almost instantly.

[Elvin]

I'm sure that it will be just before raid time, to annoy players as much as possible

[Ilenya]

I'm sure that it will be just before raid time, to annoy players as much as possible

Yes, because SE will be sure to coordinate with every single raider to find the perfect time.