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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyuki38 View Post
    When do you use tri-disaster ?

    Do you open with 3 Fester or with 3 different Aether spells ?
    For single target I start with Rouse + Ekindle, Tri-Disaster, Fester, Interleave some Ruin 2/3/4 to catch buff and Fester, Tri-D if it is up, DWT, Ruin 3/4 (I can usually get in 5), Deathflare, Aetherflow. I will also throw in Shadow Flare if the tank isn't dancing all over the place.

    For multi-target I use Rouse+Ekindle, Tri-D, Bane, Interleave some Ruin 2/3/4 to catch buff and Painflare .... The rest is same as single target.

    I'm still working on Bahamut but overall I hit Akh Morn and try to weave Ruin 3/4 with OGDC's. I Ruin 2 as the Bahamut timer gets close to get in the second Akh Morn. If Aetherflow spells are up I more or less repeat opener. If not I use whatever else is up until Aetherflow is ready.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    so you don't clip r3 and r2 in trance or bahamut trance? : o

    edit: oh Koyu take a look at this (thx Eirene Snow) <3

    I have managed to find a method that consistently provides you with 11 WW (sometimes 12 WW) as long as you fulfil the following conditions:

    Have at least 5 targettable oGCDs up (3 x aetherflow stacks, 1x Tri-D & 1x Addle)
    For each oGCD weave, use it in the middle of your GCD cast. I.E R2 (0.5 sec wait + Fester) → R2 (0.5 sec wait + Addle)
    Remain stationary as much as possible
    Decent Ping (I have heard that people are unable to get 11 off at ~ 190ms)

    The rotation is as follows: R2 (Aetherflow + Bahamut) → R2 (0.5 sec wait + Fester) → R2 (Akh Morn) → R2 (0.5 sec wait + Fester) → R2 (0.5 sec wait + Addle) → R2 (0.5 sec wait + Fester) → R2 (0.5 sec wait + Tri-D) → R2 (Akh Morn) → R2

    *Note 1: It is possible to get 11 through other variations, just that it may not be as consistent. I am currently still in the midst of figuring out the exact portion of the rotation that is causing 1 WW to be missing in many variations (People are usually getting 10 WWs).

    Note 2: The best timings to use R4 procs is either through swiftcast or to hardcast it right after an Akh Morn.

    Note 3: There is currently an issue where Akh Morn or the last WW in Bahamut does no damage to the target if executed below 2s left on the timer. The animation still appears and ACT registers the damage but it does not appear in the in-game combat log.
    watcha think? :3
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-30-2017 at 09:52 PM.

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    Here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU0y...ature=youtu.be

    I guess some things could still improve but it doesn't look to bad for a start. Btw this was just an average try, numbers fluctuate from 21-22 to 27-28 depending on the crits and direct hits.

    Edit:

    Intelligence 2231
    Critical Hit 1725
    Determination 794
    Direct Hit Rate 1589
    Spell Speed 1156

    Just saw someone else on youtube pulling 4300+, but after looking a few times into his video I noticed some of the dmg increase comes from him summoning bahamut a second time (mine is slightly delayed compared to his). This dummy does not favour my rotation much because dummy dies when my numbers aren't at its peak. And he used potion :P (not sure if food too).
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    Last edited by Gallus; 07-01-2017 at 12:16 AM.

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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Mind sharing your int/crit/det/dHit/ss stats? Just to get an idea what your numbers are based on? ^^
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    I'll check in few time, but since chaining R2 after R3 makes bahamut attack twice, i don't see my we should delay Fester or other instant spells, or use R2 instead of R3 + R2 + Fester.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Maybe you can beat Eirene with your rota and take over the lead on fflogs with yours than :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyuki38 View Post
    I'll check in few time, but since chaining R2 after R3 makes bahamut attack twice, i don't see my we should delay Fester or other instant spells, or use R2 instead of R3 + R2 + Fester.
    For what its worth I agree with you on this. My understanding is the idea is to get as many Bahamut hits in as you can as that outweighs the slight DPS differences between the other spells.
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    I don't think i can, i already parsed and it's currently bad.

    I'm traveling on the web to figure how i can improve.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyuki38 View Post
    I don't think i can, i already parsed and it's currently bad.

    I'm traveling on the web to figure how i can improve.
    even if you don't wanna use the r2-rota you should take a look at Eirenes analytics "Summoners Heart 4.0"
    It's really well written for every aspect of smn 4.0 in general - I just can't stop reading it so far ^^
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    From what i gather, level 70 smn is basically about choosing the optimal time for your burst phase in between aetherflow cooldowns.
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