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    Cleared it on my second try. Not trying to rub it in, I really did. My advice? Don't even go with a group where "everyone know what you're doing please" because those (in my experience) always fail.

    It isn't a difficult fight, make a group that's (really) about learning. If people are honest about not knowing and wanting to learn, things tend to go that much smoothly. Every time, if I go into a learning party it may take two or three or four tries, but they eventually pull through. All the people being dishonest about knowing what they are doing generally fuck things up for everyone else, because of course if they aren't open to learning they won't be contributing.


    Those were my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    It isn't a difficult fight, make a group that's (really) about learning. If people are honest about not knowing and wanting to learn, things tend to go that much smoothly.
    This would be my advice as well. I made a party finder group "Susano ex BLIND RUN, learning fight together from beginning", so no one knew anything about the fight beforehand. We had 5 people from my FC and 3 completely random people. We made good progress and to my surprise no one left, we entered the instance 4 times total I think (because time ran out, had to repair etc.) and eventually beat it.

    So my experience is going in without knowing anything with full party of people who also didn't know anything, and beating the fight in about 3 hours total.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    There seems to be a coniagious disease on this boss named "healer DPS" which ultimately lead to an unavoidable wipe
    Whaaaat? Both us healers were DPSing throughout learning and on our victory run. Why would you have an issue with that? With item level 300 and random people I felt the DPS requirements were pretty tough (we met enrage twice before beating it), especially if people are dying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    I had to lol at this since the healing requirements are pretty much non-existent. If your healers aren't dpsing they're contributing to you hitting enrage.
    Yup, the only parts requiring healing are the AoEs and those are easily covered... Even tank busters don't really hurt at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    Cleared it on my second try. Not trying to rub it in, I really did. My advice? Don't even go with a group where "everyone know what you're doing please" because those (in my experience) always fail.

    It isn't a difficult fight, make a group that's (really) about learning. If people are honest about not knowing and wanting to learn, things tend to go that much smoothly. Every time, if I go into a learning party it may take two or three or four tries, but they eventually pull through. All the people being dishonest about knowing what they are doing generally fuck things up for everyone else, because of course if they aren't open to learning they won't be contributing.


    Those were my two cents.
    This, learning parties have always had a higher success chance than "clear" parties for me, since people go in intending to learn it instead of expecting to just win, or maybe trying to ride a win...
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    Lmfao my group cleared Susano EX on the first try. It upsettingly easy.

    Also I solo healed Lakshmi EX. Actually my group farmed it with me solo healing. It is even easier than Susano EX.

    I was hoping the devs upped EX primal's difficulty, but it's the same as HW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Lmfao my group cleared Susano EX on the first try. It upsettingly easy.

    Also I solo healed Lakshmi EX. Actually my group farmed it with me solo healing. It is even easier than Susano EX.

    I was hoping the devs upped EX primal's difficulty, but it's the same as HW.
    The sad thing is you went in with a static and you are saying it easy. I cleared in learning parties so at least I have the right to say they are easy and even more so than HW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    The sad thing is you went in with a static and you are saying it easy. I cleared in learning parties so at least I have the right to say they are easy and even more so than HW.
    Not a static.

    But why do you think that only gives you the right to say it's easy? Anyone who clears it has the right....because it's easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Not a static.

    But why do you think that only gives you the right to say it's easy? Anyone who clears it has the right....because it's easy.
    Oh I'm just saying I thought you were in a pre made say it was too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Oh I'm just saying I thought you were in a pre made say it was too easy.
    But why do you think statics don't have the right?

    I assume you have a legit reason, and this isn't just a causal player cry bully thing.
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    Just clear mine too. Join pf... we wipe 4 time until left 5 mins and we clear it. Yes 4 try. 2 rf and 2 on pf. I basically save mekiyo, full Kenki gauge, Sen gauge, guren and Potion on add phrase dps check. I also save it during player turn into rock phrase. Then require a lot of moving, jump across, popping third eye -> merciful eye and second wind. I also midare a lot... nice seeing those crit number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    Learning party advice
    Thanks for the advice. I just hit i300+ last night on my drk and i was wondering about how to go about doing Susanoo Ex. This helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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