/clapsCleared it on my second try. Not trying to rub it in, I really did. My advice? Don't even go with a group where "everyone know what you're doing please" because those (in my experience) always fail.
It isn't a difficult fight, make a group that's (really) about learning. If people are honest about not knowing and wanting to learn, things tend to go that much smoothly. Every time, if I go into a learning party it may take two or three or four tries, but they eventually pull through. All the people being dishonest about knowing what they are doing generally fuck things up for everyone else, because of course if they aren't open to learning they won't be contributing.
Those were my two cents.
well said
I do simpathise a lot with some of you having problems with rubbish groups. I was there for 2 days a a WHM. But I tell you once you clear it the duty finder with the duty completed ticked is gold. After my first kill I had to kill it 9 more times to get the weapon and every single group was very good. So just keep going for it once u have that first kill the groups out there are good.
I joined a jp practice group in pf when I first started. Got through it the third try. Apparently staying away from parties with 'Please know mechanics' is the real deal. You just don't know how toxic it can be.
Its normally the party leader who messes up the most then blame everyone else, like the One mistake = kick but heaven forbid the Leader makes a mistake and you point it out = kick anyways.
Best thing to do when entering a training party is to have someone explain it phase by phase (Party leader or a friend).
Explain phase 1 then try to pass it. Move to phase 2 and so on til you down it.
This way, you make sure that everyone in the party is on the same page, and that there is no one who is lucky enough to dodged everything without a clue.
If the party is showing progress, the chance of rage quitting will be very low. People will stick around until the last phase or stay for a kill.
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