Question for all the salty tanks

[Genoreaper]

I see alot of posts from tanks raging if a dps or healer decides to pull some random mobs here and there. And from when I tanked I\\'ll admit that I kinda got sad when they survived these rogue pulls. Not that I wanted to fail, but because it made me feel like well...wtf, this is my job.

Now you know how it feels. The war nerf expecially had to happen. You had a god class that had sustain, burst, Self heals out the ass, and was pretty much best in game. Everyone crying for equality didn\\'t seem to mind when pld and drk were ignored in party comps for double war. The nerf needed to happen there\'s no reason you should be outdpsing dps roles, or healing yourself to that extent. Now your job is to tank, you have to rely on the party. Your damage was nice, but it was just bonus like healer dps. The problem is war should have never been that strong in the first place, so elevating all tanks to that level would have made it harder to make content but you still TANK just fine.

[ExKage]

Where's the question?

[Genoreaper]

There is none. But it would get them curious id hope, then they can read one person's perspective on how their tanking isn't broken. They just aren't god of all anymore.
Maybe one less person will make a complaining post about their dps.
Blm can't heal, and is the only caster without raise, but we aren't crying and we went through horrors in 3.0

[Gimorian401]

I havent tried WAR yet just looked at the abilities. Getting DRK to 70 was rough until everything clicked. WAR was a broken class, I mained WAR during 2.0 in 3.0 it was my off tanking class and yeah soloing bosses from 10% raid bosses at 2% was great but i can see the reason for the change. They are not useless but I know when I get to leveling it I will have to relearn the limits of the class just as I did with DRK. WAR shouldnt bitch about the changes. Your not SCH or SMN. They got the worst. We just have to relearn the class

[Sylvina]

Paladin is actually a decent class now, Warrior is still good, but tanks need their VIT damage scaling back no exceptions.

[Medicine]

Paladin is actually a decent class now, Warrior is still good, but tanks need their VIT damage scaling back no exceptions.

Holding aggro against two Samurai's or Red Mage's is annoying enough and it'll only get worse as time goes on, so I hope they figure something about soon.

[Medicine]

Ehhh I'm fine with all the nerfs to WAR they were WAY to strong, my problem is how clunky they've become.

[Yahallo]

I'm not a War main, and I don't think Tanking is fine in the long term with the current state of things. If this continues, it will become rather difficult for tanks to maintain aggro due to the damage gap between them and DPS, because damage generates enmity. Twelve forbid the DPS forgets to use their enmity reducer (or refuses to use them in some cases).

This isn't just a thing in the English community either; the Japanese community also wants some changes like going back to the Vit+Str damage calculation. There's a movement in both communities for changes.

A now 28 page thread from the Japanese Tank forums: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%97%E3%81%84

[Lilseph]

A now 28 page thread from the Japanese Tank forums: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%97%E3%81%84

This is a good thing, I hope we can keep fightning on both sides to sort this out as soon as possible with the dev. team.

[Talec]

I'm not a War main, and I don't think Tanking is fine in the long term with the current state of things. If this continues, it will become rather difficult for tanks to maintain aggro due to the damage gap between them and DPS, because damage generates enmity. Twelve forbid the DPS forgets to use their enmity reducer (or refuses to use them in some cases).

Problem with this game is, that you get rewarded for stealing the aggro of the tank. If I'm second on aggrolist and close to the tank I get dozens of VIP-votes for the content. If I use all reducers I have, I get None.

Since the game lacks any parser, PUK-Groups rely on aggro-meter for determing who was effective.