ffxiv royal menagerie trial Normal

[Niadissa]

Duty finder, only one person knew the fight, got beat the first time around, learned from our mistakes and we beat it on the second try. Honestly, what's hard about paying attention to what mechanics do and then countering them? If you are absolutely still having problems, run Ala Migho castle a few times for some ilvl 300 gear.

[VanilleFang]

Oh god. Is this going to be Steps of Faith all over again?

[Feidam]

Duty finder, only one person knew the fight, got beat the first time around, learned from our mistakes and we beat it on the second try. Honestly, what's hard about paying attention to what mechanics do and then countering them? If you are absolutely still having problems, run Ala Migho castle a few times for some ilvl 300 gear.

Cleared mine via duty finder as well with most of us having no clue. Wiped 5 times got it on the sixth with very few hiccups. People just need to learn.

[Elim]

So I helped another friend through this. The party we got was FULL of terrible, horrible, players that kept killing themselves. For example one of our tanks kept walking off the edge to his death. My partner healer kept running out of mana(a WHM... how even...).... so he was pretty much useless. We still cleared it. It's extremely forgiving for even the most casual player. There's no need to "git gud" for the fight, you just can't AFK auto attack it.

[Inuk9]

i mean, what's the point of nerfing this fight if you gonna see even harder content from there? Extreme primals are harder than this fight, Omega will be harder and Omega savage will be the ultimate difficulty of this game.

The new 24 man raid (return to ivalice) will be harder as well.

So, why the fuck do ou want a nerf on this fight if you not going to pass the other endgame content wih your current skill level? Gonna want to nerf all content too?

[Nestama]

I guess this means they are going to nerf it, the only question is when :\

Final Steps of Faith wasn't nerfed, though...

[Sicno]

It's about bloody time some people take a look at their HUD and notice they're lvl 70 now and that they aren't running Sastasha anymore. That in the long time they've been playing they SHOULD have learned a thing or 2.

[Alleo]

I am glad that I did this fight now and not later when it will be nerfed. (I fear that this will happen) Steps of faith did have the problem that a missed shot could mean a wipe, yet you had to wait till he walked all the way to the end..that would take lots of time. It was really sad what it became after the nerf.

I also believe that this is a good way to show some people that they need to get better. The other dungeons were already more mechanic heavy and this one is on the top of it. I sure hope that it taught that one jump potion healer a good lesson of getting better. The only thing I fear is the behavior of some people that finished this and get it in their roulette. In my second group we had a tank that already did it and that had no understanding that us new people need to learn this fight. There are a lot of things happening and a mistake can lead to you dieing so one should be prepared to wipe to this at least once or twice, and more if there are mostly new players in it. Yet that tank started to complain after the second wipe and even wanted to end the duty. We had to kick her and did not get another one after that..so I do fear that this might get bad for people later when a lot of players are finished with it and might not remember that they also needed a bit to understand the fight.

So dear community a harder fight is all good (and necessary) but also remember to bring some patience with you. Otherwise it will not surprise me if SE nerfes it.

[BillyKaplan]

On one hand, I get all the people who want this nerfed. Unlike a lot of the content mentioned in this thread as an example, like raids and extremes - this content is mandatory for story progression.
That said, I agree it's a learning matter. Plus, as time progresses, more people will become familiar with it, and more importantly, gear will improve and power creep will rear its head once more. This fight will become a joke just like Thordan (and if that one was nerfed before, all the more power to the example because it really is a joke right now). This isn't how the final trial of an expansion (minus patches) should feel, least of all right off the bat.

[Kinkoz]

I realize many people are just saying "Iz ez, git gud." and calling it a day, but that's not going to solve their problem or the OP's.

My point is to prove that the OP has no business asking for a nerf as s/he has not done everything in his or her power to maximize his or her contribution to the party.

You're essentially saying the same thing as "git gud" here, only with more words while somehow, at the same rate, complaining about the fact that OP chose to subject themselves to the feedback and/or backlash of the community. I'm not sure I'm understanding your point, because it doesn't seem to have proven anything whatsoever.