To be honest, a fight in the MSQ that can take one 12 hours to complete ought to show how ridiculous it is.
This sort of experience needs to be left to the actual extreme/savage content.
To be honest, a fight in the MSQ that can take one 12 hours to complete ought to show how ridiculous it is.
This sort of experience needs to be left to the actual extreme/savage content.

Yeah, it sure is ridiculous for a MSQ fight to actually require any degree of thought or communication with other people. Clearly all MSQ fights should be so braindead easy that you can clear them while just rolling your head back and forth across your keyboard as you drool all over it like a braindead idiot.

It took you literally 12 hours? Because I find that incredibly hard to believe.
My first time in, I spent less than an hour wiping nonstop before having to vote abandon, and then the next party I got put with managed to clear after 2-3 wipes.
Last edited by Kinkoz; 06-29-2017 at 12:19 PM.

No, no it really shouldn't. If you can't beat this within a dozen tries there is seriously something wrong with the group. My DF group went 1/6 and I just solo healed it from 50% since the other healer kept falling off.
These players should not be allowed to progress into the pool of even endgame dungeons imo as they kill the experience of capable players on a daily basis. If anything, there needs to be even more difficulty checks than there are.
Reducing the difficulty on this only makes the experience that much worse. Don't listen SE, we need a tiny bit of challenge outside of Raids and Extremes.



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No need to lie about your numbers you maybe spent like 1 hour trying to clear or just 2 runs and your rank 2 FC only has 4 people in it.

Please. PLEASE. DO NO LISTEN TO THE CRIES TO MAKE THIS EASIER.
It simply requires attention and coordination and is actually an AMAZING FIGHT.
EASILY the best story fight in the game. Ever.
I can't WAIT for the Extreme version (which there better be one, make it happen SE), because there is a damn good chance it could knock Thordan EX out of my "favorite fight" position.
There is nothing to "fix", SE. Please do not change this fight.
A quick note, I cleared it with two friends, going in blind only with on-the-spot instruction by one of my friends who was in Discord with me. The rest were pugs. First group just sucked, we left after like 15 mins. Second group got it in three pulls.
I swear, if this gets nerfed because of people crying about its difficulty...
Last edited by Miyha; 06-29-2017 at 09:30 AM.
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My blind df team got it in 3 tries. First attempt was pretty sad (though we all had a good laugh), 2nd attempt got it to 30%, last run had no deaths. If you put your heads together after a wipe you'll do way better than quietly respamming the trial.
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