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  1. #31
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Titania - How long do you think itll take before your alts are high enough to worry about this particular fight? A rising tide lifts all ships, and this fight will be easier over time. People will learn the mechanics they dont understand now, people will get better gear to shorten the fight, the echo will show up probly in patch 4.1, and the people who truly cant do the fight will likely self-select out of it(in other words, drop group before the gate drop) leaving you with groups who consistantly 1shot the thing.

    Darth - I doubt (many) people buy clears. The OP made several basically identical threads on different forums to complain about the fight and try to drum up support for a nerf. He filled his threads with exaggerations, and tried to scare away people who hadnt even gotten that far yet. Hopefully they dont take his type seriously. And to people needing a clear reading this for some reason, if all else fails put up a PF. I try to join every PF i can for this fight. Its fun, a bit challenging, and i feel like im helping people - and i know im not the only one. Plus bonus. We all like bonus.
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  2. #32
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    Nabian's Avatar
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    My fc just 7-man solo healed this fight. It's not hard at all
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  3. #33
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    LunaFaye's Avatar
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by DarthRok View Post
    People actually buy clears for this? I could use some extra gil, lol.
    Yes they do, just like old primals back in the day, as people bought the clears for their weeklies. Might be different on aether, because I haven't seen it as much, when playing my gilgamesh alt, but it's defiantly a thing on primal lol. However it's calming down, sorry to say but you have missed the gil train, gl next time lol
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  4. #34
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    NightFire19's Avatar
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    Xuan'li Minh
    World
    Zalera
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    Ninja Lv 70
    "What do you mean I have to LEARN MECHANICS instead of DPS'ing blindly for a final boss that's as strong, if not stronger than Bahamut? Inconceivable!"
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  5. #35
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    Maeka's Avatar
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    Maeka Blazewing
    World
    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Protip to winning Royal Menagerie:

    Queue up as close to JP Midnight as you can (11AM EST, 10AM CST, 9AM MST, 8AM PST). Might want to wait 15-20 minutes after.

    When you do this, you're going to end up with more people who are there doing roulettes. These people are usually overgeared for the instance and/or experienced. If you, the newbie gets stuck in with 7 veterans, you are 90% sure to succeed within an attempt or two unless you're one of the tanks or healers. And even then, it should be easy. That's how I got my OT clear for the first time.

    The later in the day you wait to do it, the more chances there will be of you getting other newbies trying to clear. More newbies = more chances of mistakes being made = more wipes.
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  6. #36
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Protip to winning Royal Menagerie:

    Queue up as close to JP Midnight as you can (11AM EST, 10AM CST, 9AM MST, 8AM PST). Might want to wait 15-20 minutes after.

    When you do this, you're going to end up with more people who are there doing roulettes. These people are usually overgeared for the instance and/or experienced. If you, the newbie gets stuck in with 7 veterans, you are 90% sure to succeed within an attempt or two unless you're one of the tanks or healers. And even then, it should be easy. That's how I got my OT clear for the first time.

    The later in the day you wait to do it, the more chances there will be of you getting other newbies trying to clear. More newbies = more chances of mistakes being made = more wipes.
    Just a shame many of those doing their roulette much prefer taking the penalty for leaving D:
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  7. #37
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    Maeka's Avatar
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Just a shame many of those doing their roulette much prefer taking the penalty for leaving D:
    There are some quitters around, yes... but if you just wait for replacements, you'll eventually see enough competent people who aren't quitters, and you'll eventually clear it, especially if they see that the majority of the group has good gear. *shrugs*

    IMO, SE needs to bump up the penalty for leaving within the first 5-10 minutes and/or with no wipes. Maybe block them from using Roulette (ANY) for the rest of the day.
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  8. #38
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kengi_Stargazer View Post
    Royal Menagerie needs a nerf worked at this trial with a lvl 70 job and best gear even medicine and food for over 10 hours and simply there is no way to clear it. The boss simply puts out too much damage for 2 healers and the 3 limited self heals. I can do I even popped high level healing item in fight to somehow try to survive and every time even with full understanding of the mechanics the boss could only be beaten down to about 35%. I have used every skill rotation I can find Online I tried help from the FC im part of and all I can get out of anyone is : Buy a clear. I don't have millions of Gil i can waste on a possible clear and frankly the fight needs to be made optional for story line or nerfed down to where its legitimately easier on players. I even tried playing on a PC rather than PS4 shut everything down to maintain the best connection i can for both and simply there is nothing that can be done to pass that content.
    First off, get a new FC. That is a shit answer from them. Secondly it doesn't need a nerf, and it will get easier the more people gear for it. Part of the issue is people go in undergeared and/or expect a carry when it's not going to happen. I was lucky, my pug group comprised of 6 noobies including myself and after 4 wipes we learned and cleared it. If you're having that much of an issue, throw up your own party finder. You will find like minded people that way.

    Do NOT waste gil on a clear. The fight is not optional just like steps and final steps were not. It's story and it will stay. It legitimately is not that hard so long as EVERYONE is on their toes and know the mechanics. It does separate players on skill level. As for connection, if you're having issues switching from one end to another end won't aid you. You still are using the same internet inbetween them both. If you're hardwired you're getting the best connection at least in your home. If connection is an issue, I would mention that in party finder as well.

    In the end you'll get there just don't give up!
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    Last edited by silverlunarfox; 07-26-2017 at 10:48 PM.

    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

  9. #39
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Got it in a trial roulette, and it was the easiest 1 shot. (and still see it occasionally, all of which has been easy as of late, now that more ppl know the fight)
    People like to argue omega normal is easier, but i still see people wipe to omega, and I see this fight being easier.

    Its a fight that requires knowing mechanics, not a fight of skill.

    You cant know mechanics until you either do it, or studied a video.

    The ONLY kind of nerf that could be reasonable, is more transparency on conveying what to do, even if u hadnt done it before. (and the main offender is done on purpose, since he started with tsunami in the FF5 version to wipe ur party as a surprise attack.)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  10. #40
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kengi_Stargazer View Post
    Royal Menagerie needs a nerf worked at this trial with a lvl 70 job and best gear even medicine and food for over 10 hours and simply .
    I wouldnt say it needs a nerf, but I will admit after doing it once, so far every other party I have had has failed when the trial roullete keeps giving it to me. So I kinda wondering if some people are actually gettin stuck on this certain fight havent seen threads on it but Im wondering.
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