I quit

[Ogulbuk]

That's an argument I don't buy [that the game is boring because anyone is being "forced" into living in tank stance.] If your goal is to have fun stance-dancing, and squeezing out every inch of damage from each tank job, that ability is still there. You still can do a lot more damage if you opt to do that. You wont break game balance and do more damage than a DPS doing so, but that is claimed to not be the point.

I have issues with 4.0, but it's not that I cant do enough damage (I can solo stuff well enough, and as you said, I am viable at tanking.) My only concern in 4.0 is intra-balance among tanks. War may be viable, but relative to PLD and DRK, it is way behind.

[Falar]

But your single target MP regen doesn't rely solely on Blood Price. And as a whole, it's much faster to refill your MP now, especially if you're under Grit.

This is misinformation, there is no "delay" resulting in a DPS loss. What can be a DPS loss is spending too much MP on Blackest Night instead of Dark Arts, but that's without considering the times where TBN is used for mitigation, and that BloodSpiller ignore's the damage penalty.

Since Bloodspiller is on the GCD every use of it delays the use of your resource generating abilities--SS and SE.

[Falar]

Generally, 1/3 GCDs will be a SS (MP regen) or a SE (10 BB). Using Bloodspiller reduces this. Also, so many people saying "TBN is amazing!". Well, yes and no. I know none of the current dungeon bosses hit me hard enough to ever proc it and again, due to the nature of Bloodspiller being on the GCD the offensive benefit it gives is limited. Looking like the early math is pointing to TBN being a DPS loss when not in Grit at the very least.

It seems that "stance dancing" is more encouraged than ever now as well because BW+Delirium is just so much better than BP+Delirium. I know I always drop grit for it if Delirium is available.

[Reynhart]

Since Bloodspiller is on the GCD every use of it delays the use of your resource generating abilities--SS and SE.

Yeah, one Syphon Strike equals 1/2 Dark Arts, so 70 opportunity potency, yet BloodSpiller still has a higher average than a full powered Soul Eater combo with that 70 bonus potency...
Jeez, this is at least the fourth thread we have to make that calculation so people strop spreadin misinformation.