I quit

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SMN seems to be a great example of this, beyond the numerical nerfs and changes, the way the Aetherflow interacts with the Dreadwyrm trance changed so much that the class is far far more punishing to mistakes. And players have a much more limited set of skills available to them when they are, say, between pulls in a 4-man dungeon.

.... Are you a SMN? Because I can assure you, as a SMN main, the changes they made to Aethertrail stacks not having a count down has been nothing but a blessing. I no longer have to worry about stacks dropping between mobs or while dodging boss mechanics. It's annoying that I can't refresh aetherflow while in dreadwyrm trance (I used to in order to shave off a few extra seconds of cooldown time)... Or more specifically, it's annoying that you can still refresh it, but all it does is put Aetherflow into cooldown without giving you anything for it. XP But the fact is, that is something I will eventually train myself to avoid doing.

All of my damage got nerfed, but it's a lot more sustained than it used to be, cooldowns are shorter, I don't lose a sh*t ton of damage if I mess up and time Painflare poorly, or if the tank isn't speedrunning... Honestly I think you picked one of the worst classes for an example, there are very few SMNs I know that're dissatisfied with the changes. Our biggest complaint is the loss of Sustain for Titan-egi in solo content lol.

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.... Are you a SMN? Because I can assure you, as a SMN main, the changes they made to Aethertrail stacks not having a count down has been nothing but a blessing. I no longer have to worry about stacks dropping between mobs or while dodging boss mechanics. It's annoying that I can't refresh aetherflow while in dreadwyrm trance (I used to in order to shave off a few extra seconds of cooldown time)... Or more specifically, it's annoying that you can still refresh it, but all it does is put Aetherflow into cooldown without giving you anything for it. XP But the fact is, that is something I will eventually train myself to avoid doing.

All of my damage got nerfed, but it's a lot more sustained than it used to be, cooldowns are shorter, I don't lose a sh*t ton of damage if I mess up and time Painflare poorly, or if the tank isn't speedrunning... Honestly I think you picked one of the worst classes for an example, there are very few SMNs I know that're dissatisfied with the changes. Our biggest complaint is the loss of Sustain for Titan-egi in solo content lol.

Haha, no I don't play SMN I main healer. But my co-DPS plays SMN exclusively and I know for a fact that they would blow a gasket if I showed them your post. They have been complaining my ear off since SB release (and a little before tbh) in pretty much every instance we've run together. Apparently now when you're at 3 Aethertrail it is impossible to gain Aetherflow, and so it's impossible to use any Aetherflow reliant spells until you go into Dreadwyrm trance and complete that whole part of your cycle. I heard them say that the class seems to work correctly up to 50, but once they introduce Aethertrail stacks it becomes frustrating and restrictive compared to how it used to play.

I'm not going to show them your post though so they can follow up to clarify because I value my own peace of mind at home. I will just say, it may be a minority of SMN's that aren't happy -- but boy are they unhappy.

I don't think that's something that should happen following a class re-balance.

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Haha, no I don't play SMN I main healer. But my co-DPS plays SMN exclusively and I know for a fact that they would blow a gasket if I showed them your post. They have been complaining my ear off since SB release (and a little before tbh) in pretty much every instance we've run together. Apparently now when you're at 3 Aethertrail it is impossible to gain Aetherflow, and so it's impossible to use any Aetherflow reliant spells until you go into Dreadwyrm trance and complete that whole part of your cycle. I heard them say that the class seems to work correctly up to 50, but once they introduce Aethertrail stacks it becomes frustrating and restrictive compared to how it used to play.
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XD I know we all have specific preferences. It sounds like they're just having trouble adapting. The rotation is just subtly different. 50 ARR SMN you spent your stacks slowly and wisely (often spread out over the 60 second cooldown for aetherflow), assuming there wasn't something you needed a burst for. 60 HW SMN saw that change. You had to spend stacks quickly to build Aethertrail stacks, which were on count down, so the goal was to spend quickly in order to get into dreadwyrm on time (often having to take a dps loss in order to get the most potency you could). Current SMN they brought back the strategic part in lvl 50 SMN. You no longer have to ham-hand your way to Dreadwyrm, your aether abilities have lower cool down, and you don't lose stacks over time. It leaves a lot more room to strategize.

It's much simpler. Get your 3 aethertrail stacks, spend them to get into dreadwyrm (did they used to just let them expire before? o.O ). Mash out your dreadwyrm rotation, then refresh Aetherflow and start again. Then of course at 70 it throws in bahamut, which really doesn't change the rotation too much.

Edit: but anyway, I feel like we got off topic. XD Suffice to say, I think a lot of changes have happened to everyone's Job. Some are just adapting better than others, and we should wait and see how it all feels once these knee-jerk reactions die down.