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    Kalocin's Avatar
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    Letho Orwyth
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Just remember that there's a lot of tanks echoing this without writing on the forums.
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    Agni Highwind
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalocin View Post
    Just remember that there's a lot of tanks echoing this without writing on the forums.
    This is the truth right here, I'm not happy with DRK's current fit. Got good DMG, Aoe tanking is fine. But begin a MT is just gimping your group. Our CD's are shit, blackest nights just made us the go to OT. The worst part is, I can be in Grit and run soul eatger combos and still get out threat by some SAM, hell even BRDs will pass you. So despite us being able to stance dance the easiest you just never will if you haev to be 2nd on the agro list. Voke shirk isnt even enough to keep you in 2nd slot.
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    Mana Kurogane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valknut View Post
    This is the truth right here, I'm not happy with DRK's current fit. Got good DMG, Aoe tanking is fine. But begin a MT is just gimping your group. Our CD's are shit, blackest nights just made us the go to OT. The worst part is, I can be in Grit and run soul eatger combos and still get out threat by some SAM, hell even BRDs will pass you. So despite us being able to stance dance the easiest you just never will if you haev to be 2nd on the agro list. Voke shirk isnt even enough to keep you in 2nd slot.
    What? I have the opposite problem with aggro. Single target I can easily hold enmity; it is AoE where I have issues. Single target, I just start with a Power Slash combo or two if the DPS are really good and I am usually good for the rest of the fight. Shirk and voke together should easily let you hold aggro in 8-man contents. I never had an issue with single target enmity, but AoE enmity generation.

    Make sure you Dark Arts Syphon Strike in addition to Soul Eater if you have the spare MP; it is an extra 140 potency. Dropping out of Grit and using Blood Weapon with Delirium can help you with MP management and may allow you to maintain aggro better with the additional MP despite the immediate drop in enmity generation, as long term, the added MP can do quite a bit.

    But yeah, I have not been getting any issues with single target enmity, I can even drop out of Grit for periods of time rather easily while still maintaining aggro . It's the AoE enmity generation that I have trouble with.
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    Last edited by Yahallo; 06-28-2017 at 10:43 AM.

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    Joladis Gainsborough
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    Stop Crying

    Yes they made changes to the jobs and yes some are worst than others but overall most people are happy with the class changes. I am a main healer and I wasn't happy with the changes at first but after learning to change the way I play a little and seeing what they did with the changes I gotta say that it feels better than it did before. Is it harder yes but that just means I gotta up my game and I look forward to the challenge.
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    Mana Kurogane
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Joladis View Post
    Yes they made changes to the jobs and yes some are worst than others but overall most people are happy with the class changes. I am a main healer and I wasn't happy with the changes at first but after learning to change the way I play a little and seeing what they did with the changes I gotta say that it feels better than it did before. Is it harder yes but that just means I gotta up my game and I look forward to the challenge.
    Or we can give them feedback like they want so they can improve the game further. Some of us are dealing with the changes but are still sending in the feed back to get some changes. The Japanese Tank Forums for example, has a large thread asking for the Vit+Str damage formula to return. The fact that the tank population is shrinking is not a good sign. If we don't give any feedback, how will the developers know what to fix?

    I am pretty sure I have adjusted to the new Dark Knight, but that doesn't mean I am happy with the way things are so it is only naturally I am going to send in feedback based on my experiences.

    I'm not crying; I'm giving feedback.
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    Vayne Kaonis
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    Armorer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Joladis View Post
    Yes they made changes to the jobs and yes some are worst than others but overall most people are happy with the class changes.
    [citation needed]
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    Arnar Grande
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Joladis View Post
    Yes they made changes to the jobs and yes some are worst than others but overall most people are happy with the class changes. I am a main healer and I wasn't happy with the changes at first but after learning to change the way I play a little and seeing what they did with the changes I gotta say that it feels better than it did before. Is it harder yes but that just means I gotta up my game and I look forward to the challenge.
    I absolutely love how some people just come in here and say "most people are happy with the changes" with no proof whatsoever to back it up. Also you don't have to click on threads if you don't want to. It seems like that's hard for some people.

    You remind me of something someone once said on reddit.

    "My name is Susie Snowflake and I should be exempt from ever seeing content in this subreddit that does not match my interests."
    Also, see my reply here as to proof that many people are not happy with the changes to their jobs. Seems like MCHs aren't happy with their job either according to this comment thread. There's a 31 page thread on the JP forums about the VIT AP change.

    And we're giving vital feedback so players will continue to play tanks. It does not dwell well for the overall population if the population of tanks decreases.
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    Last edited by YitharV2; 06-29-2017 at 04:24 AM.